GOPchop replacement?

[Julian Elischer]

M. Warner Losh wrote:
> In message: <465A7BC8.2080900 at elischer.org>
>             Julian Elischer <julian at elischer.org> writes:
> : Jeremy Messenger wrote:
> : > On Sun, 27 May 2007 23:37:09 -0500, M. Warner Losh <imp at bsdimp.com> wrote:
> : > 
> : >> I'm looking to do non-linear editing, clip extraction, etc from a set
> : >> of videos I've shot.  These videos are from a DV camera, and I've
> : >> processed them down into MPEG2 format for DVDs.  I no longer have the
> : >> DV originals.  I was wondering if there's any good non-linear editor
> : >> for these things.  So far the best thing I've found is GOPchop, which
> : >> is still extremely primitive.  Are there any others?  There's many in
> : >> the multimedia category that look like they might do the trick, but so
> : >> far I've come up empty.
> : > 
> : > Maybe this URL will helping you to find a better one.
> : > 
> : > http://freshmeat.net/browse/256/
> : > 
> : > Which is better one? I have no idea. So far from what I see in the 
> : > screenshots: avidemux and PiTiVi look cool for GTK+2 or GNOME users, and 
> : > Kdenlive and Kfilm for KDE or QT users.
> 
> I was hoping for someone who has actually done this to answer.  "Tool
> X is what I use, and I do Y and Z with it."  There's no end to sites
> that have lists of things available.  Given that it takes multiple
> hours to build most of them, I'd rather see if someone else has
> actually used one before first.
> 
> : > Cheers,
> : > Mezz
> : > 
> : >> This is on FreeBSD/amd64 running current.
> : >>
> : >> Warner
> : > 
> : > 
> : ok
> :  so I give up.. what does "non-linear" mean in this context?
> 
> Non-linear in this context means that I can take a video stream.  I
> can subset it into clips and arrange the clips into an order of my
> choosing and save the result as a new video.  Bonus if the meta-data
> can be saved so I can tweak the edits at a later time.  kino does
> this, but only with DV video.

Imovie on the mac can do it by importing and exporting from other formats 
but it does the editing in DV format. I suspect that kino can do teh same.

> 
> Warner