Serial line fbsd installation with no CD
bv at wjv.com
Mon Apr 14 20:38:10 PDT 2003
While Jez Hancock was trying to figure out why data written to
/dev/null on Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 16:52 was not readable,
he gave up and decided to grace us with this:
> Hi again Bill,
> On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 02:47:39PM -0400, Bill Vermillion wrote:
> > > The problem was with ipfw2 and in general it's just the fact
> > > this is currently not a production server and we'd rather have
> > > a fresh install of 4.8 (the NOC currently installs 4.6.2 for
> > > some reason and it might become the case that they'll start
> > > installing 4.8 by default when they answer us - negating the
> > > need for a solution to the subject question:).
> > Ah - so it's a company that does more than just put the server in
> > place and does install too. I'm not used to that as about the only
> > help I'd get in the colo is a 'helping hands' if needed - but I'm
> > only 1/2 hour away. It's basically a top-tier tranport provider
> > who provides facilities for anyting you'd want - but is not
> > a colo of the 'we provide everything you need'.
> > We have our own racks and do all our own work - the only thing the
> > NOC does is give us connectivity. Different perception on my part.
> > If I have a problem one of us [small company] goes and changes the
> > machines ourselves, or accompanies one our clients while they
> > change their own machine. Security is strict so we have to arrange
> > for anyone else to get into the building.
> To be honest I feel that this is synonymous to the setup of our NOC.
> I'm actually only a 'coadmin' - in the sense that I do not talk
> to the network op centre, my 'admin' 'boss' does (lots of 's).
Hm. We're small - but dedicated - and we both worked in highly
time sensitive businesses - the broadcast industry - so we know the
value of down time.
However even though we are small we have rack-space in the Level3
facility in Orlando. We got it when it first came up and before
they put the current minimum useage in place. Our customers - few
as they are - love us.
> It's incredibly frustrating that the cost of colocation in the UK
> (where I am) and in AUS (where my friend is) is so high and as
> such we have to colocate in US where bandwidth is much more reasonably
And could you give an example of what those costs are? I'm curious
as to the rates around the world.
> > But having machine with connections not less that 100Mbs running
> > for a few hundred feet before it gets onto a global 10Gbs backbone
> > does have it's advantages.
> Yikes that's some pipe.
It's a communications facility and now that the bloom is off the
dot.com boom of a few years ago so much they sell is dark fibre.
I asked a tech installing equipment in a cage behind our rack how
much it was worth. Her comment was "I'm not sure but the one
almost like it in Miami cost $14,000,000" OC192 equipment is not
cheap. The backup generator is a 1,250,000W monster behind the
building - with a 6000 gallon tank of diesel fuei. I've seen many
colos but never one like L3.
One client who hosts exclusively on Macs but a new Xrack in last
week to augment his other server.
> Still waiting for news on the availability of 4.7-RELEASE CDs in the
> NOC, I can well see me mailing a disk off to them :)
Usually follows by about 3-4 weeks judging from the past.
Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com
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