Improve OptionalObsoleteFiles.inc

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Tue Oct 5 13:09:59 UTC 2010


----- Original Message -----
From: Alexander Leidinger <Alexander at Leidinger.net>
To: Gonzalo Nemmi <gnemmi at gmail.com>
Cc: freebsd-hackers at freebsd.org
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 11:34:23 +0200
Subject: Re: Improve OptionalObsoleteFiles.inc

> Quoting Gonzalo Nemmi <gnemmi at gmail.com> (from Tue, 5 Oct 2010  
> 01:30:00 +0200):
> 
> > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Paul B Mahol <onemda at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 10/4/10, Peter Pentchev <roam at ringlet.net> wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 11:01:45AM +0000, Paul B Mahol wrote:
> >>>> On 10/4/10, Alexander Leidinger <Alexander at leidinger.net> wrote:
> 
> >>>> > At least status-mailq is still useful with other MTAs, e.g. if you use
> >>>> > postfix (and assuming the mailwrapper is configured correctly), this
> >>>> > should still work. Depending on the setup of the aliases,
> >>>> > backup-aliases will still work too. I haven't checked for the other
> >>>> > ones.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you want to keep some "old" files, you just need to press `n' instead
> >>>> of `y'
> >>>> when deleting files. You are not forced to run make delete-old at all.
> >>>
> >>> On the other hand, doing this (skipping those files) on each and every
> >>> system
> >>> update (say, on a development or testing machine) could get a bit... boring
> >>> -
> >>> not to mention that at some point you'll learn to "oh, just say no", and
> >>> then
> >>> forget to remove something important.
> >>
> >> Oh! I see... I want it in black.
> >
> > Hold your horses there ... get it to work as expected and then,
> > _and_only_then_ you can start raising your finger and accussing poster
> > of bikesheding ...
> > As it stands, _it_sucks_ and I have already pointed it out before
> > without much success (something as useless as telnet wasn´t deleted a
> > not so long time ago) ... Peter Pentchev´s point was a completely
> > valid one.
> 
> As the one who wrote the functionailty: The delete-old stuff is  
> designed to delete stuff which was installed by an installworld (or  
> similar) before, but is not installed by installworld (or similar)  
> now. As there may be old programs around which depend upon such a file  
> or directory, you have to explicitely tell if you are ok to delete it  
> or not (it is the responsability of the administrator to make sure  
> everything is OK). If you are sure no program still depends upon it  
> (make check-old), you can specify -DBATCH_DELETE_OLD_FILES to delete  
> everything without being asked (see "man build").
> 
> As we've read in this thread that the files I would like to keep are  
> not installed by an installworld if the corresponding option is  
> specified, the patch is 100% correct and Peter and you want to use  
> delete-old for something it was not designed for (and I should discuss  
> somewhere else to install the files I talked about even if the  
> corresponding option is specified).
> 
> Bye,
> Alexander.


~2 months ago I've opened a thread called:  Deinstalling parts of base
Take a look here:
    http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=17860

Domagoj



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