Observations on Gnome-2.14

Kevin Oberman oberman at es.net
Mon May 1 17:30:33 UTC 2006

> Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 11:39:42 -0500
> From: "Jeremy Messenger" <mezz7 at cox.net>
> On Mon, 01 May 2006 11:24:34 -0500, Kevin Oberman <oberman at es.net> wrote:
> > I have one system running V6-stable that is now running Gnome-2.14. Some
> > things are really nice about it, but there are some oddities and some
> > things that need touching.
> >
> > First, an easy one...netspeed_applet needs to be rebuilt. I think a bump
> > of PORTREVISION is in order.
> >
> > When I first started 2.14, I got messages that several icons
> > (gnome-calculator, logout, screen-lock) could not be found and were
> > displayed as white icons with a red 'X'. But after acknowledging the
> > message, all of the icons appeared and work fine.
> >
> > This might be a race as I am running i386 on an AMD dual-core 4400+
> > Athlon-64 processor and it may be getting something done before things
> > are ready. This is also intermittent. It happens about half the time
> > when I start Gnome. (I use startx, not gdm.)
> >
> > On several start operations the icons in the weather applet are
> > missing. Other times they appear. Probably the same "can't find icon"
> > issue.
> >
> > gnome-terminal has sometimes crashed on logout from Gnome. I have not
> > tried to debug this at all. I do see that the contents of
> > .gnome2/session no longer have information on all of the gnome-terminal
> > windows. Just a simple command, so I guess gnome-terminal is storing
> > this somewhere else. (I need to find out where to debug why at least one
> > window never restarts.)
> >
> > Sessions are a bit messed up. As already reported, all manually
> > startup-sessions are gone after the upgrade and must be re-entered. No
> > longer is there an ordering option, but this might be settable via the
> > "Current Session" tab. I'll paly around with it if I get a little time.
> >
> > The logout tool no longer has a check-box to save the session. I THINK I
> > saved it by going into the "Sessions" prefs and selecting to
> > automatically save the session on logout and logging out. I then logged
> > back in and de-selected that option. There is still an option (which is
> > selected) to "Ask on logout". It appears to be a no-op in 2.14, though.
> >
> > On several start operations the icons in the weather applet are
> > missing. Other times they appear. Probably the same "can't find icon"
> > issue.
> >
> > Noise level issue: we really need a FreeBSD splash. The default Gnome
> > splash is just too boring looking.
> >
> > Problems I was having with calling ssh-add at session start are gone. I
> > never reported this, but if I included ssh-add (with gnome-ssh-askpass)
> > in the "Startup Programs" the startup would have for between 1 and 3
> > minutes and sometimes the wnck-applet would go into a loop and eat one
> > CPU. Killing wnck-applet would fix the problem as it automatically
> > restarts. In any case, this issue looks like it is gone!
> >
> > Big win in performance. Not everything is faster, but many things are
> > very noticeably faster. I'll have a better idea about this tomorrow when
> > I have a slower system upgraded. My dual-core is new and things always
> > seem to be fast, but I think I really like it.
> >
> > Thanks to the entire Gnome team for the work on this. It has thus far,
> > been the least painful Gnome version upgrade I have ever had.
> Try to login in a dummy user and see if you still have the same problems.  
> My experience of upgrade, I had to clear a several of ~/.* to get GNOME  
> 2.14 and other apps stable. Mostly are from .gconf* stuff.

No joy. I created the dummy user and had pretty much the same
issues. Still no obvious wat to save a session other then setting
auto-save and then clearing it on the next login. All of the "can't find
icon" errors were there, too.
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: oberman at es.net			Phone: +1 510 486-8634

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