ports/58840: [PATCH] exclude possibly unrequireddependenciesfrom x11/gnome2

[Jeremy Messenger]

On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:32:38 +0100, Alexander Leidinger 
<Alexander at Leidinger.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 01:26:31 -0600
> Jeremy Messenger <mezz7 at cox.net> wrote:
>
>> > While I respect your opinion, I don't agree with it. Not everything
>> > needs to be installed. Why things like gnomemeeting should be 
>> installed
>> > puzzles me. There should be an *easy* way for users to opt out of
>> > unneccessary things.
>>
>> Easy answer for gnomemeeting, because it's part of Gnome. Check at
>> www.gnome.org .
>
> PHP also has some default options and some additional possibilities.
> While PHP isn't a meta package which pulls in "real" packages, it's "a
> port" like the gnome-meta-port. I don't understand why we aren't allowed
> to add features to it (with the actual behavior as the default). I'm a
> ports committer and know how to handle this situation locally, but I
> don't understand why we aren't allowed to give users without knowledge
> about the internals of the ports collection user-friendly knobs.
>
>> > Plenty of other ports take advantage of WITH_* and/or WITHOUT_* 
>> options
>> > to let users finetune their ports without forcing them to write their
>> > own Makefiles. Why not x11/gnome2?
>>
>> I believe, Joe and Adam have answered it. :-)
>
> I don't know of a rule "meta-ports aren't allowed to have options", so
> could someone please try to explain to me, why we cant offer a "I want a
> different version of gnome"-feature to people which lack the expertise
> to do it on their own?
>
> I don't want to push this change into the tree, but I think it would be
> a good idea to have it. The sole reason of this mail is to understand
> the reasoning of the rejection.

I don't know how to explain it very well, but I understand (and believe) 
that the x11/gnome2 should not have the options what you want to install. 
Joe has covered in his new thread and past too. PHP and x11/gnome2 are 
very different and PHP is a package. However, as I said that I call it a 
feature.

What we really need is to.... create x11/gnome2-lite (no option of define) 
that only need to get Gnome2 able to startup as desktop with no 
apps/bloats. The users should be able to install any ports what they want 
after they installed x11/gnome-lite.

Lastest thread was about x11/gnome2-fifth-toe, someone (don't remember 
who) requested to add the option defines. We had to explained it to him 
that x11/gnome2-fifth-toe is supposed to have those packages without 
option. If you don't want those packages then don't use 
x11/gnome2-fifth-toe and pick the ports what you want to install or create 
your own meta-port. This is same idea as with x11/gnome2.

Cheers,
Mezz

> Bye,
> Alexander.


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