Minor MIPS tree pruning

Mon Jan 1 19:29:58 UTC 2018

At least it looks more clear now - only Malta. :)

Thanks, Warner!

2018-01-01 19:50 GMT+02:00 Warner Losh <imp at bsdimp.com>:

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> On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 6:51 AM, Aleksandr Rybalko <ray at ddteam.net> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Stanislav, I'm on freebsd-mips@ list :)
>>
>> I already answer Warner about rt305x dir but have another thing to say:
>> We need boards supported by emulators to use for CI tests.
>> IIRC, qemu support only Malta MIPS board.
>> Not sure about other emulators, but it will be nice to not lost its
>> support.
>>
>
> Totally agree on that! I'd love to see better testing tools. qemu has like
> 3 targets that we might be able to support, but the other 2 wouldn't gain
> us that much since they are for hardware older than MALTA. qemu for arm has
> like 50 it supports, and we could use half a dozen of them in regression
> testing if we were so motivated.
>
> There's other emulators, but none of them stray far from MALTA or
> something that's so close to identical as to not be that useful. At least
> last time I did a survey. I'd love someone to prove me wrong here :)
>
> Warner
>
>
>> Thanks, guys!
>>
>> Happy New Year!!!
>>
>>
>> 2017-12-31 8:01 GMT+02:00 Stanislav Galabov <sgalabov at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 4:08 AM, Warner Losh <imp at bsdimp.com> wrote:
>>> > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Rodney W. Grimes <
>>> > freebsd-rwg at pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> > On 2017-12-31 01:46, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
>>> >> > >> On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Rodney W. Grimes <
>>> >> > >> freebsd-rwg at pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> > > Can you give me pointers to these boards for adm5120 and IDT?
>>> >> When last I
>>> >> > >> > > tried to get them 5 years ago they were hard to come by and
>>> >> generally
>>> >> > >> > came
>>> >> > >> > > with no more than 32M or 64M of memory.
>>> >> > >> > >
>>> >> > >> > > mips/rt305x has been subsumed by mips/mediatek, so will be
>>> >> deleted w/o
>>> >> > >> > loss
>>> >> > >> > > of functionality.
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > Please go back and read very carefully what the person said
>>> about
>>> >> > >> > this.  It was PLANNED to subsume rt305x into mediatek, but it
>>> has
>>> >> > >> > NOT been done yet.  At least that is how I read the persons
>>> >> > >> > comments.
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> That's not how I read it. I read it as "this is what we planned,
>>> and
>>> >> > >> we've
>>> >> > >> arrived." However, out of an abundance of caution, I sent an
>>> email
>>> >> > >> asking
>>> >> > >> for confirmation. Code inspection certainly suggests that my
>>> >> > >> interpretation
>>> >> > >> is correct.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > Thanks.  Also you might want to ping the router projects folks,
>>> >> > > as I believe many of the mips based routers use this SOC and
>>> >> > > they may have info on which of the implementations work better,
>>> >> > > and/or if the mediatek branch is up to speed and the rt305x
>>> >> > > can just be axed.  I know this project is out there someplace,
>>> >> > > but can not find a link for it right now.    And I have seen
>>> >> > > some activity someplace from them in the last 3 or 4 months.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >   "router project folks" ?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >   Who are you talking about exactly ?
>>> >>
>>> >> And now I found the other person that just posted updates on the
>>> >> zrouter code, it is now a git project, and just updated stuff
>>> >> relative to the RT305x stuff one month ago:
>>> >> https://github.com/ZRouter/ZRouter/tree/master/socs/Ralink
>>> >>
>>> >> Project top is at https://github.com/ZRouter
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Looks like they'll have to update. Should be pretty easy. I'll ping.
>>> >
>>> > Warner
>>> >
>>> I am adding ray@ to the conversation so he can give his input as well.
>>> As far as I am concerned mips/mediatek is already a superset of
>>> mips/rt305x and should be the one that's carried forward.
>>>
>>> Stanislav
>>>
>>> >
>>> >> > >> Warner
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > > I'm curious what benefit sibyte has apart from broadcom? It
>>> seems
>>> >> to
>>> >> > >> > > support a super old broadcom chip that's way obsolete that
>>> has a
>>> >> bunch of
>>> >> > >> > > errata that need workarounds that aren't present in newer
>>> chips.
>>> >> What am
>>> >> > >> > I
>>> >> > >> > > missing?
>>> >> > >> > >
>>> >> > >> > > Warner
>>> >> > >> > >
>>> >> > >> > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Michael Zhilin <
>>> mizhka at gmail.com
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> > wrote:
>>> >> > >> > >
>>> >> > >> > > > Hi Warner,
>>> >> > >> > > >
>>> >> > >> > > > If I can give my twopence worth, I think that adm5120 &
>>> idt are
>>> >> to be
>>> >> > >> > kept
>>> >> > >> > > > for a while, there are few vintage boards (for instance,
>>> >> Mikrotik from
>>> >> > >> > > > Latvia) with good configuration (plenty of flash and RAM),
>>> >> sibyte is
>>> >> > >> > to be
>>> >> > >> > > > part of broadcom and also kept for a while.
>>> >> > >> > > > rt305x is still very popular and cheap (for instance, "3g
>>> >> router" with
>>> >> > >> > > > RT5350 from AliExpress, but I have one, not yet tested).
>>> >> > >> > > >
>>> >> > >> > > > And I don't know what is alchemy. :)
>>> >> > >> > > >
>>> >> > >> > > > Thank you!
>>> >> > >> > > > P.S. Wish you Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you
>>> and your
>>> >> > >> > family.
>>> >> > >> > > >
>>> >> > >> > > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Warner Losh <
>>> imp at bsdimp.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > >> > > >
>>> >> > >> > > >> I'd like to propose that we eliminate support for the
>>> following
>>> >> > >> > before the
>>> >> > >> > > >> FreeBSD 12 branch.
>>> >> > >> > > >>
>>> >> > >> > > >> adm5120 (most boards don't have enough memory, very old)
>>> >> > >> > > >> alchemy (the au1xxxx port never really was finished, and
>>> >> boards lack
>>> >> > >> > > >> memory, very old)
>>> >> > >> > > >> idt (only a few boards worked, most are long obsolete)
>>> >> > >> > > >> rt305x (raylink kit is now out dated, at least I think so)
>>> >> > >> > > >> sibyte (long obsolete, hard to get hardware)
>>> >> > >> > > >>
>>> >> > >> > > >> I thought I'd post a heads up here before I proposed this
>>> list
>>> >> to
>>> >> > >> > arch at .
>>> >> > >> > > >>
>>> >> > >> > > >> We have enough exemplars these days we don't need to keep
>>> >> these older
>>> >> > >> > > >> ports
>>> >> > >> > > >> around as examples anymore, and I have my doubts if we
>>> even
>>> >> work on
>>> >> > >> > these
>>> >> > >> > > >> boards anymore.
>>> >> > >> > > >>
>>> >> > >> > > >> If I'm wrong about these being old, or that FreeBSD is no
>>> >> longer
>>> >> > >> > running
>>> >> > >> > > >> on
>>> >> > >> > > >> them, please let me know. Thanks!
>>> >> > >> > > >>
>>> >> > >> > > >> Warner
>>> >> > >> > > >> _______________________________________________
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>>> >> > >> > > >
>>> >> > >> > > >
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>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > --
>>> >> > >> > Rod Grimes
>>> >> > >> > rgrimes at freebsd.org
>>> >> > >> >
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>> --
>> WBW
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>> Rybalko Aleksandr <ray at ddteam.net>
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