9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)

Warren Block wblock at wonkity.com
Thu Nov 8 19:46:50 UTC 2012

On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, Richard Kuhns wrote:

> On 11/08/12 10:45, Warren Block wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, CeDeROM wrote:
>>> I have tested additional options in xorg runtime :-)
>>> With the patched xorg mouse driver 1.7.1 (or driver version >=1.7.2)
>>> situation is following:
>>> 1. With hald and dbus no xorg.conf file is needed. However it might bo
>>> option to pass some additional featutes parameters with xorg.conf.
>>> 2. With no hald and dbus mouse and keyboard does not work in xorg unless
>>> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "False" is added to  Section "ServerLayout" by
>>> hand in xorg.conf. Without this option input does not work even if
>>> xorg.conf defines it! AllowEmptyInput=False forces to detect input deviced
>>> by Xorg at startup.
>> No.  AllowEmptyInput is wrong.  It was causing so many problems that it
>> has been removed from later xorg-server releases.
>> Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" is the one that means "dont' use Hal to
>> detect input devices".
>>> Thank you for this hint! This could be added to the handbook :-)
>>> AllowEmptyInput=False should be a default for Xorg IMO we can report it to
>>> the Xorg project! :-)
>> Really, the simplest solution is to build xorg-server with the HAL
>> option disabled.  I agree that this should be the default.
> Just a comment: according to http://wiki.freebsd.org/VirtualBox, Hal is still
> required for VirtualBox in order to have host DVD/CD access.

This is probably a permissions thing.  VirtualBox sees the device, but 
can't quite mount it.  So hal may not be actually required for that 
function in VirtualBox, but figuring out just what is needed without hal 
remains to be done.

KDE and Gnome both still need hal, but AFAIK do not require it to be 
used for xorg input device detection.  xfce4 works fine without hal.

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