FreeBSD's problems as seen by the community

Dominic Fandrey kamikaze at
Sat Jan 12 01:11:36 PST 2008

Kris Kennaway wrote:
> Kris Kennaway wrote:
>> Dominic Fandrey wrote:
>>> The first problem is the unbearable performance many AMD users are
>>> suffering
>>> for several chipset and CPU generations. Even minimal I/O load on a
>>> hard disk
>>> suffices to lock up whole systems. Posts on the mailinglists current and
>>> stable have often been answered with denial or have simply been
>>> ignored. Only
>>> on very rare occasions (if at all) have these problems been taken
>>> seriously.
>> Thanks for the feedback.  It is hard to respond to the reports of poor
>> performance or other problems without specific information though.
> FYI this was not a dismissal, it was an invitation for you to follow up
> with the specific problems your members have seen so we can try to
> evaluate them.

Yes, thank you. I consider the first replies to the mail as very positive and
the intention to take us serious and try help us is clear. I'm a bit
disappointed the thread has been hijacked by people who want to press their
own agenda. The last time I sent a performance complaint to ports@ it resulted
in faster code (pkg_install, bsd.ports.mkd), not in license discussions.

Anyway, the general description is the following: during a portupgrade the
system response time goes up to several seconds or even minutes during a
portupgrade. Imagine writing an email and having to wait a minute for your
typing to show up. Needless to say, that using a mouse is impossible.
This effect how ever is, though best seen there, not limited to X. Ping times
to an affected system doing a portupgrade also go up to several seconds (over
a cross cable).

What I need now is someone to tell me, what to do in order to track the
reasons down. It has recently been brought to my attention that there is a
tool for creating scheduler traces, which I might ask people to collect, but
my unqualified opinion is that it's an interrupt handling problem.

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