FreeBSD's problems as seen by the BSDForen.de community
kris at FreeBSD.org
Fri Jan 11 03:21:25 PST 2008
Kris Kennaway wrote:
> Dominic Fandrey wrote:
>> I'm writing this mail on behalf of the largest German BSD community
>> (http://bsdforen.de/). Some of our most respected and experienced
>> members have stopped using FreeBSD entirely, especially professional
>> have taken this step.
>> Many of us are very attached to FreeBSD and those of us who turn our
>> backs to
>> the system consider this a personal loss.
>> This mail is the result of a forum thread that consists of more than
>> 200 posts
>> (still growing) that started in October 2007
>> (http://www.bsdforen.de/showthread.php?t=19426). It is meant to sum up
>> causes of this development, the reasons we see for this and what we think
>> might be promising ways to try solve these problems; at least in the
>> areas we
>> were able to achieve consent.
>> The first problem is the unbearable performance many AMD users are
>> for several chipset and CPU generations. Even minimal I/O load on a
>> hard disk
>> suffices to lock up whole systems. Posts on the mailinglists current and
>> stable have often been answered with denial or have simply been
>> ignored. Only
>> on very rare occasions (if at all) have these problems been taken
>> The second big problem is the handling of regressions. PRs remain
>> or the reporters are told that the regressions they report do not
>> exist. Some
>> of our members have even suffered the experience that they developed a
>> but it simply was ignored or turned down for the reason that it was a
>> solution". Especially frustrating for those among us who have never
>> looked at
>> Linux code.
>> These problems seem to be exceptions, but they are very persistent
>> Problems concerning code that is currently being worked on are shown
>> attention, feedback and patches are happily taken and the developers
>> the problem reporter with steps to take in order to track down these
>> The problem seems, in our opinion, to reside with unmaintained code.
>> It seems
>> that nobody wants to take responsibility for code that has been
>> untouched for
>> a longer period of time. This is quite understandable, considering that
>> developers already have projects they're working on and probably
>> consider much
>> more important, but that does not make it less of a problem.
>> What we think might be a solution to the regression problem, would be the
>> establishing of a Regressions Team, similar to other teams like the
>> Team. The sole purpose of this team would be to take care of
>> regressions that
>> concern unmaintained code.
>> To solve the performance problems it appears to us, that a guide to
>> performance problems or a performance test suite is required. This would
>> hopefully allow us to write PRs and emails that would be taken more
>> - Dominic Fandrey on behalf of BSDForen.de community
> Thanks for the feedback. It is hard to respond to the reports of poor
> performance or other problems without specific information though.
FYI this was not a dismissal, it was an invitation for you to follow up
with the specific problems your members have seen so we can try to
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