Plans for after FreeBSD-5.3-RELEASE.

Jose M Rodriguez josemi at
Wed Sep 22 06:33:55 PDT 2004

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 15:03:08 +0200, Michael Nottebrock  
<michaelnottebrock at> wrote:

> On Wednesday 22 September 2004 12:46, Jose M Rodriguez wrote:
>> - Plans to work and standard FreeBSD way to X11
>>         + An implementation guide common to x11/gnome/kde (document ->
>>         article | handbook)
>>   - Plans to work on a FreeBSD 'feeling'. Same fonts, ...
>>  + tweaks to apps-defaults, gnome and kde config.
>>  + common process of resources. Xresources , Xmodmap, ...
>>   - Plans to specific support easy thenmeing 'a la FreeBSD'.
> I'm rather sceptical about those. You need to remember that FreeBSD  
> isn't a
> commercial linux distribution with their own art department and people  
> who
> specialise in enforcing a common look'n'feel.

I don't think so.  And we doesn't have the resources of, let say,  

Also, FreeBSD gnome, kde and x11 projects are, more o less, independent.

> If this should really happen, we'd need more than just a few new scripts  
> -
> we'd need a team of people dedicated to make it work, keep it working and
> deal with the constant flaming of users that don't like the new common
> look'n'feel.

And, as we haven't a splendit car, we can't even walk.

I'm talking about simple and reallistik thinks like:

   - Have a simple document about how xinit, xdm, and so must work.
   - What to put in ~/.login or /.profile, and what in ~/.xprofile
   - who to use ~/.xinitrc and know when gdm/kdm/xdm must use it.
   - Try to reuse the basic xinit/xdm config from gdm/kdm.
   - Try to get a real failsafe X login.
   - Try to get the same defaults colours and font on xterms ...

> My own humble opinion is that it is probably more realistic to do those  
> things
> in your specific project where you're in control anyway. Unifying the big
> desktop environments is a big task, and so far I'm not aware of any  
> project
> which managed to do it without more or less taking the look&feel of one  
> and
> stomping it on the other (for example, Redhat went mostly for GNOME, SuSE
> mostly went for KDE).

Agree. This is not the point.

>>         + rcNG support for x11
>>                 * /etc/rc.d/xdm.  operative and valid for gdm/kdm/xdm
>>                 * /etc/rc.d/xfs?  we need a font server with libXFT  
>> trends?
>>                 * /etc/rc.d/xserver.  Xserver init for XDMCP (XTerminal)
>>                 * /etc/rc.d/xinit.  Special init via xinit.
> Those things are probably doable.


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