Rackmount MP AMD boxes?

alan barrow alan.barrow at psinet.telstra.co.uk
Wed May 18 05:23:00 PDT 2005

think I know this company as well. And I have to agree, after the 
excellent female sales person left the true nature of their ineptidude 
came to light.

yours a.r.b.

Ken Gunderson wrote:

>On Mon, 16 May 2005 01:15:17 -0700
>ray at redshift.com wrote:
>>| I would estimate it was about 4-5 weeks ago.  Sorry but I don't recall
>>| any names.  Tech guy was good.  Sales guy I got transferred to was
>>| supposedly one of the head honchos.  Don't recall specifics but I have
>>| vague recollection of Indian (?) accent and that he may have been part
>>| owner and/or manager.  Anyhow, I have a reseller's license and he was
>>Hi Ken,
>>  I've been to the company - I don't believe there are any Indian people working
>>there.  It's a small shop, great equipment, well run, etc.  Are you sure you
>>weren't talking to Dell :)
>>| Glad they've worked out well for you but I'd certainly never consider
>>| them ever again unless I was in a real bind and out of options.  I may
>>| have only been dropping 4 grand but for me that's not mere chump change
>>| and I didn't appreciate being treated like one.  
>>My gut reaction is you are mixing them up with some other company... but who
>>knows.  Maybe you hit a bad sales person or something?
>>All I can say is that as far as pricing, they are best I've found and I've been
>>in the computer field for 26 years.  I used to sell boxes.  When I first ran
>>across them, their prices on Supermicro servers (the price I was getting from
>>them for just 1 or 2 machines at a time) was so much lower than other hardware
>>suppliers that several of the other people bidding on my business flat out said
>>"We pay more wholesale for our equipment than OSS is selling it to you for - we
>>can't beat those prices".
>>I went back to OSS (spoke with Eren) and asked them how they are getting such
>>great prices.  He explained they sell to larger gov and enterprise companies
>>(AOL, etc, etc) and that they move so much volume that they get great prices
>>from SuperMicro).  I believe they are now doing basically the same thing, only
>>with AMD and Tyan.
>>Anyway, no one is forcing you to shop there :-)  I was simply answering that one
>>e-mail from whoever was asking about AMD boxes.  That's where I buy our rack
>>servers and as I said, the service has been 2nd to none over the last 3 or 4
>>years.  Having done business with the company for all our servers, I'm a little
>>surprised you would have such radically different experiences.
>Ray/List, et. al.--
>I'd meant to send my last reply to Ray and not the list.  That's what I
>get for doing email that late when I'm tired...
>I think Ray's reply to OP was an honest effort to be helpful based on
>his personal experiences with oss.  Similarly with me.  I wouldn't have
>followed up to the extent that I did had not the company I was
>referencing been so rude and arrogant.
>Sorry that I cannot recall specifics as they were one of many
>I spoke with and it's been a few weeks but I was pretty sure we
>were talking about the same outfit.  However, I now concede that we may
>not have been referencing the same company.  Doing some research this
>morninig, I am inclined to think I was the one in error.  The
>company I referenced was very close in name (again sorry that I cannot
>recall precisely), linked to from Tyan's website (perhaps at the time,
>but I cannot seem to find them there anymore), was a flash heavy site,
>and somehow affiliated with Colfax (at least that's who I got
>transferred to and the website I was directed to to check pricing).  Of
>this latter part I am sure because I revisited and immediately
>recognize the site.
>Anyhow, I don't want to spam the list anymore with this.  But in
>fairness to Open Source Storage I feel I should post this follow up
>saying that I _may_ have been confusing them with someone else.  My
>apologies if I've offended anyone in so doing.
>Thanks for your indulgence and have a good day;-)
>Ciao-- kvg
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