I can't make world without the "games" group?

Redd Vinylene reddvinylene at gmail.com
Tue Aug 26 09:34:12 UTC 2008

On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Giorgos Keramidas
<keramida at ceid.upatras.gr> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:31:22 +0200, "Redd Vinylene" <reddvinylene at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Why can't I make world without the "games" group? I run a serious
>> server, not a kindergarten ;)
>> I don't want the games group there, I just don't need it!
> Have you tried building with an src.conf file that includes:
>    WITHOUT_GAMES='yes'
> It' not a matter of `kindergarten or not', but a matter of providing a
> predictable `base system' by default and all the knob and documentation
> to customize it at will.  That's why you can find a lot of customization
> options in the manpage of src.conf(5).
> For example, on a `production server' that is a bit limited in space,
> and doesn't really need compilers, debuggers, profiling tools, or three
> different firewalls, I would probably build with:
>    WITHOUT_CVS=yes
>    WITHOUT_GAMES='yes'
>    WITHOUT_GDB=yes
>    WITHOUT_IPX=yes
> I would also use WITHOUT_TOOLCHAIN=yes during `make installworld' runs,
> to skip installing all the gcc, g++ and debugger tools.
> The default `base system' still installs all these parts, but you are
> definitely *not* obliged to always install all of them.
> - Giorgos

Hello hello!

Yeah I actually tried that, but I got the same error.

I don't see why the FreeBSD team has to insist on keeping this, pardon
my language, bullshit. If some sorry guy actually needs this, why
can't he load it as a module, or install a port?

To quote some Frenchman: "Perfection is achieved, not when there's
nothing left to add, but when there's nothing left to take away."

I worry slightly as I watch FreeBSD become bigger and bigger, fearing
that some day it'll all come tumbling down!


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