freebsd-advocacy Digest, Vol 124, Issue 3
Nicole
nicole at unixgirl.com
Thu Nov 3 18:32:04 PST 2005
On 03-Nov-05 My Homeland Security "observers" reported that Chad Gross said:
> I am glad I am not the only one. This logo is in no way, shape, or
> form better for FreeBSD compared to the last logo. I mean honestly. I
> am a marketing professional and I do not see the "progress" either. I
> too enjoy the advancement of FreeBSD when it is actual progress. And I
> agree with the above poster, does the logo really need changing? Maybe
> it just needs some new marketers... I mean a Fedora, a Penguin, and a
> Gecko have been working for Linux. And as a Christian I don't feel
> that the old logo was offensive either. At least it had character.
> Anyway, just an opinion of a user since 4.0.
>
> Chad M. Gross
> Executive Team Trainer
>
I prefer the old "logo" even if it wasn't truly a logo, but a mascot as
someone said. It had more character and could be regognized even in outline
form. Yes it wasn't as "friendly" as the Linux penquin and some with narrow
minds had issues with it, but this doesn't compare to either. It's the BSD
version of "new coke".
What was wrong with the new happier friendly looking beastie?
Nicole (user since 2.6)
Who has a BSD tatoo and I really can't see anyone to getting a tatoo of this
new "logo"
>
>
> On 11/2/05, freebsd-advocacy-request at freebsd.org
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>> 1. Re: New Logo (stheg olloydson)
>> 2. Re: New Logo (Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg)
>> 3. Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed
>> (Darlene Forsythe)
>> 4. Re: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed
>> (Greg 'groggy' Lehey)
>> 5. RE: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed
>> (Darlene Forsythe)
>> 6. Re: New Logo (Joshua Tinnin)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:04:11 -0800 (PST)
>> From: stheg olloydson <stheg_olloydson at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: New Logo
>> To: stanb at panix.com
>> Cc: "freebsd-advocacy at freebsd.org" <freebsd-advocacy at freebsd.org>,
>> "freebsd-questions at freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
>> Message-ID: <20051101220411.53839.qmail at web32710.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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>> it was said by stanb:
>>
>> >YUK!!!!!!!!!
>> >
>> >--
>> >U.S. Encouraged by Vietnam Vote - Officials Cite 83% Turnout
>> >Despite Vietcong Terror
>> >- New York Times 9/3/1967
>>
>> Look on the bright side! Everyone expected this to turn out
>> badly, and they got more than they expected. Way more.
>>
>> shudders,
>>
>> stheg
>>
>>
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:39:49 +0100
>> From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" <listsub at 401.cx>
>> Subject: Re: New Logo
>> To: stheg olloydson <stheg_olloydson at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: "freebsd-advocacy at freebsd.org" <freebsd-advocacy at freebsd.org>,
>> stanb at panix.com
>> Message-ID: <4367EEB5.6050400 at 401.cx>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> stheg olloydson wrote:
>> > it was said by stanb:
>> >
>> >> YUK!!!!!!!!!
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> U.S. Encouraged by Vietnam Vote - Officials Cite 83% Turnout
>> >> Despite Vietcong Terror
>> >> - New York Times 9/3/1967
>> >
>> > Look on the bright side! Everyone expected this to turn out
>> > badly, and they got more than they expected. Way more.
>> >
>> > shudders,
>> >
>> > stheg
>> >
>>
>> Speak for yourself!
>> I had great expectations, and I'm very pleased to see the result.
>> Congratulations to core and the winner of the contest for a job
>> well done.
>>
>> 'Everyone' does not have a problem with FreeBSD trying to make
>> progress. I know a lot of people do, but far from everyone.
>>
>> --
>> R
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:43:00 -0800
>> From: "Darlene Forsythe" <dForsythe at Omneon.com>
>> Subject: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed
>> To: <freebsd-advocacy at freebsd.org>
>> Message-ID:
>> <6A12D33C65D36A4C974AF7E7DF0F377101FB7211 at happy2.omneon.local>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>
>> Good evening,
>>
>>
>>
>> I thought that I might ask this group if anyone has a referral for a
>> consultant with the following skills:
>>
>>
>>
>> If interested, please feel free to contact me
>>
>>
>>
>> Darlene Forsythe, PHR
>>
>> Staffing Consultant
>>
>> Phone: 408-585-5115
>>
>> Email: dforsythe at omneon.com
>>
>> Web Site: www.omneon.com <http://www.omneon.com/>
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Project Description:
>>
>> Omneon filesystem client port to Macintosh OS X Operating System
>>
>>
>>
>> The project requires porting the Linux-based Omneon filesystem client to
>>
>> the Macintosh OS X operating system. This includes all functionality
>>
>> featured in the Linux version. The final software must operate as a
>>
>> networked filesystem under the OS X kernel. A performance goal of
>>
>> 40 megabytes per second for file copy operations is required.
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>>
>> Additional work products include detailed project schedule, status
>> reports,
>>
>> design documentation, an installation and de-installation system for the
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>> filesystem module, and documentation describing how to install, use and
>>
>> de-install the filesytem module.
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>>
>>
>> Skills required:
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>> - OS X or FreeBSD/Mach kernel development experience
>>
>> - Network systems programming
>>
>> - Filesystem development
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>> - Excellent communication and documentation skills
>>
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 12:28:28 +1030
>> From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog at FreeBSD.org>
>> Subject: Re: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed
>> To: Darlene Forsythe <dForsythe at Omneon.com>
>> Cc: freebsd-advocacy at freebsd.org
>> Message-ID: <20051102015828.GS56043 at wantadilla.lemis.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> On Tuesday, 1 November 2005 at 17:43:00 -0800, Darlene Forsythe wrote:
>> >
>> > I thought that I might ask this group if anyone has a referral for a
>> > consultant with the following skills:
>>
>> This list is for advocacy, not jobs. There's a specific mailing list
>> for jobs, called, well, jobs at FreeBSD.org. You're likely to find
>> interesting candidates there.
>>
>> Greg
>> --
>> See complete headers for address and phone numbers.
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 18:01:14 -0800
>> From: "Darlene Forsythe" <dForsythe at Omneon.com>
>> Subject: RE: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed
>> To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog at FreeBSD.org>
>> Cc: freebsd-advocacy at freebsd.org
>> Message-ID:
>> <6A12D33C65D36A4C974AF7E7DF0F377101FB721A at happy2.omneon.local>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
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>> I apologize for emailing this group..... I have posted to the jobs
>> listing. I appreciate your help!
>>
>> Darlene
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey [mailto:grog at FreeBSD.org]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 5:58 PM
>> To: Darlene Forsythe
>> Cc: freebsd-advocacy at freebsd.org
>> Subject: Re: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed
>>
>> On Tuesday, 1 November 2005 at 17:43:00 -0800, Darlene Forsythe wrote:
>> >
>> > I thought that I might ask this group if anyone has a referral for a
>> > consultant with the following skills:
>>
>> This list is for advocacy, not jobs. There's a specific mailing list
>> for jobs, called, well, jobs at FreeBSD.org. You're likely to find
>> interesting candidates there.
>>
>> Greg
>> --
>> See complete headers for address and phone numbers.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 19:48:38 -0700
>> From: Joshua Tinnin <krinklyfig at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: New Logo
>> To: freebsd-advocacy at freebsd.org
>> Cc: stanb at panix.com, stheg olloydson <stheg_olloydson at yahoo.com>
>> Message-ID: <200511011948.51372.krinklyfig at comcast.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> On Tue 1 Nov 05 15:39, "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" <listsub at 401.cx>
>> wrote:
>> > stheg olloydson wrote:
>> > > it was said by stanb:
>> > >> YUK!!!!!!!!!
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> U.S. Encouraged by Vietnam Vote - Officials Cite 83% Turnout
>> > >> Despite Vietcong Terror
>> > >> - New York Times 9/3/1967
>> > >
>> > > Look on the bright side! Everyone expected this to turn out
>> > > badly, and they got more than they expected. Way more.
>> > >
>> > > shudders,
>> > >
>> > > stheg
>> >
>> > Speak for yourself!
>> > I had great expectations, and I'm very pleased to see the result.
>> > Congratulations to core and the winner of the contest for a job
>> > well done.
>> >
>> > 'Everyone' does not have a problem with FreeBSD trying to make
>> > progress. I know a lot of people do, but far from everyone.
>>
>> Progress != a new logo. I am always happy to see FreeBSD make progress.
>> I have no problem with the idea of a new logo, but my hopes were not
>> high, given that it became a controversial subject. I wasn't going to
>> say anything, but honestly, I don't like it that much. It looks a bit
>> dated for an update, and it doesn't do well in black on white - the
>> font is too thin (and way too art-deco/euro-like) and doesn't seem to
>> have much to do with the "head" icon. In fact the head and wording seem
>> as if they were put together as an afterthought. And what's with the
>> sateen/silk background? Looks like a velvet painting, which is sorta
>> groovy in a kitchy way, but I don't think that was the intention.
>>
>> I don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings, and it looks like some work went
>> into it, but it's too trendy to be memorable and have staying power,
>> and it's too far behind-the-curve to be trendy. It looks like it's
>> trying too hard ... I dunno. Just that I get the feeling it will have
>> to be updated soon to look "modern" again, and it might be better for
>> FreeBSD to go with a more "classic" look that can withstand changes in
>> trends. Some logos never have to be - and never should be - updated
>> (again, I don't think this is one of them), and that's a better idea
>> for the long run. Just MHO.
>>
>> - jt
>>
>>
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