freebsd-advocacy Digest, Vol 124, Issue 3
Frank Laszlo
laszlof at tvog.net
Thu Nov 3 09:40:34 PST 2005
I wish people would stop refering to beastie as "the old logo" beastie
was never a logo.
It was simply a mascot, nothing more, nothing less. The closest thing we
had to a "logo"
was the incorporation of beastie and "FreeBSD: The Power to Serve" which
is quite dated
and reminds me old the old days far too much. The "New" logo is
mainstream, looks clean,
has a lot of potential. Of course the new logo doesnt look good in black
and white, its a full
color logo. its not supposed to look good in grayscale. The person who
designed this new concept
also provided a 2 color design, which would look fine as black and
white. My 2 cents.
__________________________________________________
Frank Laszlo
System Administrator
The VonOstin Group
Email: laszlof at tvog.net
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Chad Gross wrote:
>I am glad I am not the only one. This logo is in no way, shape, or
>form better for FreeBSD compared to the last logo. I mean honestly. I
>am a marketing professional and I do not see the "progress" either. I
>too enjoy the advancement of FreeBSD when it is actual progress. And I
>agree with the above poster, does the logo really need changing? Maybe
>it just needs some new marketers... I mean a Fedora, a Penguin, and a
>Gecko have been working for Linux. And as a Christian I don't feel
>that the old logo was offensive either. At least it had character.
>Anyway, just an opinion of a user since 4.0.
>
>Chad M. Gross
>Executive Team Trainer
>
>
>
>On 11/2/05, freebsd-advocacy-request at freebsd.org
><freebsd-advocacy-request at freebsd.org> wrote:
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>> 1. Re: New Logo (stheg olloydson)
>> 2. Re: New Logo (Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg)
>> 3. Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed
>> (Darlene Forsythe)
>> 4. Re: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed
>> (Greg 'groggy' Lehey)
>> 5. RE: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed
>> (Darlene Forsythe)
>> 6. Re: New Logo (Joshua Tinnin)
>>
>>
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>>
>>Message: 1
>>Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:04:11 -0800 (PST)
>>From: stheg olloydson <stheg_olloydson at yahoo.com>
>>Subject: Re: New Logo
>>To: stanb at panix.com
>>Cc: "freebsd-advocacy at freebsd.org" <freebsd-advocacy at freebsd.org>,
>> "freebsd-questions at freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
>>Message-ID: <20051101220411.53839.qmail at web32710.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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>>it was said by stanb:
>>
>>
>>
>>>YUK!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>>--
>>>U.S. Encouraged by Vietnam Vote - Officials Cite 83% Turnout
>>>Despite Vietcong Terror
>>>- New York Times 9/3/1967
>>>
>>>
>>Look on the bright side! Everyone expected this to turn out
>>badly, and they got more than they expected. Way more.
>>
>>shudders,
>>
>>stheg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>Message: 2
>>Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:39:49 +0100
>>From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" <listsub at 401.cx>
>>Subject: Re: New Logo
>>To: stheg olloydson <stheg_olloydson at yahoo.com>
>>Cc: "freebsd-advocacy at freebsd.org" <freebsd-advocacy at freebsd.org>,
>> stanb at panix.com
>>Message-ID: <4367EEB5.6050400 at 401.cx>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>>stheg olloydson wrote:
>>
>>
>>>it was said by stanb:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>YUK!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>U.S. Encouraged by Vietnam Vote - Officials Cite 83% Turnout
>>>>Despite Vietcong Terror
>>>>- New York Times 9/3/1967
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Look on the bright side! Everyone expected this to turn out
>>>badly, and they got more than they expected. Way more.
>>>
>>>shudders,
>>>
>>>stheg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Speak for yourself!
>>I had great expectations, and I'm very pleased to see the result.
>>Congratulations to core and the winner of the contest for a job
>>well done.
>>
>>'Everyone' does not have a problem with FreeBSD trying to make
>>progress. I know a lot of people do, but far from everyone.
>>
>>--
>>R
>>
>>
>>------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 3
>>Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:43:00 -0800
>>From: "Darlene Forsythe" <dForsythe at Omneon.com>
>>Subject: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed
>>To: <freebsd-advocacy at freebsd.org>
>>Message-ID:
>> <6A12D33C65D36A4C974AF7E7DF0F377101FB7211 at happy2.omneon.local>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>
>>Good evening,
>>
>>
>>
>>I thought that I might ask this group if anyone has a referral for a
>>consultant with the following skills:
>>
>>
>>
>>If interested, please feel free to contact me
>>
>>
>>
>>Darlene Forsythe, PHR
>>
>>Staffing Consultant
>>
>>Phone: 408-585-5115
>>
>>Email: dforsythe at omneon.com
>>
>>Web Site: www.omneon.com <http://www.omneon.com/>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Project Description:
>>
>>Omneon filesystem client port to Macintosh OS X Operating System
>>
>>
>>
>>The project requires porting the Linux-based Omneon filesystem client to
>>
>>the Macintosh OS X operating system. This includes all functionality
>>
>>featured in the Linux version. The final software must operate as a
>>
>>networked filesystem under the OS X kernel. A performance goal of
>>
>>40 megabytes per second for file copy operations is required.
>>
>>
>>
>>Additional work products include detailed project schedule, status
>>reports,
>>
>>design documentation, an installation and de-installation system for the
>>
>>filesystem module, and documentation describing how to install, use and
>>
>>de-install the filesytem module.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Skills required:
>>
>>- OS X or FreeBSD/Mach kernel development experience
>>
>>- Network systems programming
>>
>>- Filesystem development
>>
>>- Excellent communication and documentation skills
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 4
>>Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 12:28:28 +1030
>>From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog at FreeBSD.org>
>>Subject: Re: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed
>>To: Darlene Forsythe <dForsythe at Omneon.com>
>>Cc: freebsd-advocacy at freebsd.org
>>Message-ID: <20051102015828.GS56043 at wantadilla.lemis.com>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>On Tuesday, 1 November 2005 at 17:43:00 -0800, Darlene Forsythe wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I thought that I might ask this group if anyone has a referral for a
>>>consultant with the following skills:
>>>
>>>
>>This list is for advocacy, not jobs. There's a specific mailing list
>>for jobs, called, well, jobs at FreeBSD.org. You're likely to find
>>interesting candidates there.
>>
>>Greg
>>--
>>See complete headers for address and phone numbers.
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>>Message: 5
>>Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 18:01:14 -0800
>>From: "Darlene Forsythe" <dForsythe at Omneon.com>
>>Subject: RE: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed
>>To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog at FreeBSD.org>
>>Cc: freebsd-advocacy at freebsd.org
>>Message-ID:
>> <6A12D33C65D36A4C974AF7E7DF0F377101FB721A at happy2.omneon.local>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>
>>I apologize for emailing this group..... I have posted to the jobs
>>listing. I appreciate your help!
>>
>>Darlene
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey [mailto:grog at FreeBSD.org]
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 5:58 PM
>>To: Darlene Forsythe
>>Cc: freebsd-advocacy at freebsd.org
>>Subject: Re: Linux/Mac OS X Systems Programmer Consultant Needed
>>
>>On Tuesday, 1 November 2005 at 17:43:00 -0800, Darlene Forsythe wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I thought that I might ask this group if anyone has a referral for a
>>>consultant with the following skills:
>>>
>>>
>>This list is for advocacy, not jobs. There's a specific mailing list
>>for jobs, called, well, jobs at FreeBSD.org. You're likely to find
>>interesting candidates there.
>>
>>Greg
>>--
>>See complete headers for address and phone numbers.
>>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 6
>>Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 19:48:38 -0700
>>From: Joshua Tinnin <krinklyfig at comcast.net>
>>Subject: Re: New Logo
>>To: freebsd-advocacy at freebsd.org
>>Cc: stanb at panix.com, stheg olloydson <stheg_olloydson at yahoo.com>
>>Message-ID: <200511011948.51372.krinklyfig at comcast.net>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>On Tue 1 Nov 05 15:39, "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" <listsub at 401.cx>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>stheg olloydson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>it was said by stanb:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>YUK!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>U.S. Encouraged by Vietnam Vote - Officials Cite 83% Turnout
>>>>>Despite Vietcong Terror
>>>>>- New York Times 9/3/1967
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Look on the bright side! Everyone expected this to turn out
>>>>badly, and they got more than they expected. Way more.
>>>>
>>>>shudders,
>>>>
>>>>stheg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Speak for yourself!
>>>I had great expectations, and I'm very pleased to see the result.
>>>Congratulations to core and the winner of the contest for a job
>>>well done.
>>>
>>>'Everyone' does not have a problem with FreeBSD trying to make
>>>progress. I know a lot of people do, but far from everyone.
>>>
>>>
>>Progress != a new logo. I am always happy to see FreeBSD make progress.
>>I have no problem with the idea of a new logo, but my hopes were not
>>high, given that it became a controversial subject. I wasn't going to
>>say anything, but honestly, I don't like it that much. It looks a bit
>>dated for an update, and it doesn't do well in black on white - the
>>font is too thin (and way too art-deco/euro-like) and doesn't seem to
>>have much to do with the "head" icon. In fact the head and wording seem
>>as if they were put together as an afterthought. And what's with the
>>sateen/silk background? Looks like a velvet painting, which is sorta
>>groovy in a kitchy way, but I don't think that was the intention.
>>
>>I don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings, and it looks like some work went
>>into it, but it's too trendy to be memorable and have staying power,
>>and it's too far behind-the-curve to be trendy. It looks like it's
>>trying too hard ... I dunno. Just that I get the feeling it will have
>>to be updated soon to look "modern" again, and it might be better for
>>FreeBSD to go with a more "classic" look that can withstand changes in
>>trends. Some logos never have to be - and never should be - updated
>>(again, I don't think this is one of them), and that's a better idea
>>for the long run. Just MHO.
>>
>>- jt
>>
>>
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