BSD Certification Group press release

Dru dlavigne6 at
Thu Mar 17 07:51:12 PST 2005

Please continue this discussion on bsdcert at as that 
mailing list was created for just such conversation. I will answer this 
post there and cc Anthony.


On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Anthony Atkielski wrote:

> Chris writes:
>> I'm not entirely sure what this is 'sposed to mean. If it means what I
>> think it does, I'll translate.
> It means that the real purpose of certification--no matter what type of
> certification it might be--is to allow some people to make more money
> unfairly to the detriment of others.
> It pains me to see something like FreeBSD going down this path.
> Clearly, someone wants to make money off certifications, directly or
> indirectly, and no scruples prevent them from attacking the open-source
> domain to that end.
> Isn't it bad enough that this type of racket exists for proprietary
> software?
> Certification is a matter of some people calling themselves experts,
> devising tests to which only they are guaranteed to know all the
> answers, then charging other people to take the tests in an attempt to
> prove that they know exactly the same answers that the self-appointed
> experts know.  Unfortunately, this says nothing about anyone's objective
> competence in the nominal domain of the test.  It does make a lot of
> money for the people who devise and administer the tests, and it also
> restricts employment and artificially raises salaries for the few who
> are willing to go through the hazing ritual of certification.
>> Never mind the BSD certs, concentrate on MS certs - after all, that's
>> where the money is at.
> All certifications are designed to make money, nothing more and nothing
> less.
>> Well for me, I will do the BSD certs only for personal satisfaction.
> And who writes the exams, and what makes you believe that they are the
> ideal arbiters of competence?
>> Considering the types of user we BSD'ers seem to be (from my
>> experiences) sure, we care about money, but I'm willing to bet that
>> those of us that choose to do some sort of BSD certs, will be doing so
>> for our own personal satisfaction.
> I don't need a certification for my own personal satisfaction.  I look
> to actual hands-on experience for that.  Why trust a stranger to
> "certify" me, which I can find out firsthand in an indisputable way
> whether I'm competent or not?
>> That says much about the type of folks most of us are. At least
>> in my mind.
> It shows that even users of BSDs can be manipulated and hoodwinked.
> They may complain about the practices of a Microsoft or a Novell, but
> change the name and they fall immediately under the spell.
> -- 
> Anthony
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