BSD Certification Group press release

[Alexander Chamandy]

I've posted it on http://www.bsdfreak.org/ some time ago


On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:12:59 -0300, Luiz Gustavo <lgustavo at openit.com.br> wrote:
> Since BSD Vault has ignored the press release, I submitted it there
> today...
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 11:56, Astrodog wrote:
> > On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:07:33 +0100, Anthony Atkielski
> > <atkielski.anthony at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> > > Astrodog writes:
> > >
> > > > Have you considered, that a certification program done in an open
> > > > manner could be incredibly helpful for FreeBSD?
> > >
> > > If so, it would be a historical first.  I've never seen any
> > > certification program do that for anything.
> > >
> >
> > I'm not sure I see that as a problem, considering the group that is
> > putting this together.
> >
> > > > You're making some rather large assumptions, the primary one being
> > > > that the creation and design of the certification tests will be closed
> > > > and no one except the arbiters will be involved.
> > >
> > > I think it's safe to assume that the group creating and designing the
> > > tests will be far smaller than the group expected to take and pass the
> > > tests.  And offhand I can't think of who would actually be objectively
> > > qualified to design the tests in the first place.
> > >
> >
> > The group creating FreeBSD and deciding where it will go is
> > significantly smaller than the userbase. As far as someone being
> > objectively qualified.... the guy who reads your college entry essay
> > isn't objective, your boss isn't objective, cops aren't objective, and
> > neither are judges. You go with what you can get, while striving for
> > objectivity, even if it isn't possible.
> >
> > > > The reason certifications are required in some cases is that lets face
> > > > it, you COULD be full of shit and know nothing about whatever product
> > > > it is.
> > >
> > > Not if an employer or client investigates your claims.  And if he
> > > doesn't, certification won't make any difference, anyway.
> > >
> > > I'm not even sure what you'd certify for FreeBSD ... it's practically
> > > identical to the other BSDs, which in turn are practically identical to
> > > all other forms of UNIX.  Why would anyone seek out a FreeBSD or BSD
> > > certification _specifically_?
> > >
> > > > Not only does this hurt whoever hires you, but it hurts whoever
> > > > provides the product you're lying about.
> > >
> > > If people lie about experience and their clients don't check up, what
> > > would prevent them from lying about certification (which their clients
> > > wouldn't check up, either)?
> >
> > If I'm an employer, and I need to terminate a crap employee, and they
> > don't list any certs, just experence, it would be quite difficult to
> > PROVE that they didn't have experence with "Application X". However,
> > if they claim a certification for application X, that they don't
> > actually have, I can fire them without notice.
> >
> > >
> > > > As far as the last comment.... People complain about certifications?
> > >
> > > Some do.  Certifications, like unions, are attempts to artificially
> > > inflate and/or support a job market through closed-shop restrictions.
> > >
> >
> > One could argue that a college degree has the same effect. So would
> > actually knowing other people. I don't see this as an issue at all. :\
> >
> > > --
> > > Anthony
> > >
> > >
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