The only worthwhile logo-related comments so far....

Nikolas Britton freebsd at
Sat Feb 12 21:02:19 PST 2005

Erich Dollansky wrote:

> Hi,
> Kris Kennaway wrote:
>> On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 06:10:55PM -0800, stheg olloydson wrote:
>>> Core being Core will do what they think is best, and they have every
>>> right to. That's not my point. My point is the discussion took place in
>>> secret. What I am suggesting is that when certain discussions take
>>> place that they be publicly readable.
>> Again, FreeBSD has never worked that way, but if you think it should
>> then you should raise the suggestion with core.
> Could this be the real reason for the "acceptance" problem?
> In the same moment, this is also the reason for its strengths. A small 
> number of people "controls" FreeBSD giving it a direction they think 
> is best. 

Also remember that the community (committers) voted them into "office" 
to represent and make decisions for us.

"These bylaws were approved by a vote of active committers on August 28, 

    * Active committers have made a commit to the tree in the last 12 
    * Core consists of 9 elected active committers.
    * Core elections are held every 2 years, first time September 2000.
    * Core members and committers may be ejected by a 2/3 vote of core.
    * If the size of core falls below 7, an early election is held.
    * A petition of 1/3 of active committers can trigger an early election.
    * All elections will be run as follows:
          o Core appoints and announces someone to run the election.
          o 1 week to tally active committers wishing to run for core.
          o 4 weeks for the actual vote
          o 1 week to tally and post the results.
          o Each active committer may vote once in support of up to nine 
          o New core team becomes effective 1 week after the results are 
          o Voting ties decided by unambiguously elected new core members.
    * These rules can be changed by a 2/3 majority of committers if at 
least 50% of active committers cast their vote."
Democracy, 1b:
A government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and 
exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of 
representation usually involving periodically held free elections.
    -Merriam-Webster Dictionary of Law

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