Astrodog astrodog at
Fri Feb 11 06:53:17 PST 2005

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:50:29 +0100, Devon H. O'Dell
<dodell at> wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 12:41 +0000, Robert Watson wrote:
> > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, Julio Capote wrote:
> >
> > > I think that the entire point of an IT deptartment, is to provide that
> > > "geek abstraction"; no CEO goes to and decides to go with
> > > linux for thier infastructure. They ask thier IT deptartment to make
> > > those decisions. On the same token, no small business owner/executive is
> > > going to goto and download an iso and install it on all
> > > thier servers based on some marketing hype. Sites like
> > > are an exception because they are indeed a commercial entity that sells
> > > services/products based on Linux, Freebsd has no such entity.
> >
> > I don't know if I buy into "" or not, but I do buy into the
> > idea that what we need to do is provide ammunition for IT departments that
> > want to promote FreeBSD in their organization.  I.e., white papers on
> > FreeBSD as an effective solution, a professional front page that they can
> > point at and say "Look, this is real", and material to help third party
> > CDROM and support vendors provide FreeBSD support to their clients.  The
> > trick will be finding the right balance in not hiding the fact that one of
> > the greatest assets of FreeBSD is that it's driven by developers who are
> > also consumers, but provides help to people who want to sell FreeBSD as
> > the professional product that it is.
> >
> > An idea that's been thrown around by a number of people at various points
> > is to produce a set of short, professional-looking, white papers on
> > FreeBSD use in various environments -- FreeBSD in the computation cluster,
> > FreeBSD as an enterprise mail solution, FreeBSD for web clusters, FreeBSD
> > as the foundation for an appliance, and so on.  Something that an IT
> > department can take to their director/etc saying "This is a recognized
> > solution -- it works for these people, it will work for us".
> >
> > Robert N M Watson
> I'm actually busy with a couple of whitepapers for some of these subject
> for work. I'll see if I can come up with a convincing layout and perhaps
> if others contribute, we can get an officially endorsed site.
> We do need something to show that FreeBSD is a powerful tool in
> commercial areas, and I agree that a site to show that is a good
> solution. Especially if we have backing from the kind folk from the
> FreeBSD core :)
> Kind regards,
> Devon H. O'Dell
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I think we may be ending up with 2 groups looking at the same set of
work. We have a thread going as "Business Information" on this very
topic, somwhat. If you guys wouldn't mind, let me know your thoughts
on where it seems to be going.

--- Harrison Grundy

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