Re:_Proposal_—_Seamless_Windows_Application_Virtua lization_via_bhyve

>Not anymore, I run modern windows games (i.e. Cyberpunk 2077) on FreeBSD
over Wine 11, it works >with native performance..

How many games are you able to run on FreeBSD over Wine 11 with native
performances ?

>which is not possible under Bhyve or VBox.

Why not ? Bhyve does not offer native performances ?


>You probably noticed that Bhyve still uses VNC for a remote desktop and
that makes it even worse for >graphics / cad applications than VirtualBox
that at least offers direct rendering.


Oh no. I've developed qemu accelerated with bhyve,so I can use more methods
for having better graèhics. I'm also planning to port Looking Glass on
FreeBSD. I can do it because some months ago I developed an ivshmem plane
that can accelerate qemu.

Mario.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2026 at 6:57 PM Tomek CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info> wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 8, 2026 at 10:43 AM Asiye Sarıyıldız <asiyee994@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Sorry for the direct reply, loops back to the list. As you know, Wine
> can't actually run things like Adobe software, but what I have in mind
> similar to WSL2 is being able to run Windows applications seamlessly using
> bhyve.
> >
> > 8 Ağu 2026 Cmt 11:37 tarihinde Asiye Sarıyıldız <asiyee994@gmail.com>
> şunu yazdı:
> >>
> >> I know about Wine, but Wine tries to replicate Windows APIs which often
> causes compatibility bugs or performance overhead. (..)
>
> Not anymore, I run modern windows games (i.e. Cyberpunk 2077) on
> FreeBSD over Wine 11, it works with native performance.. which is not
> possible under Bhyve or VBox.
>
> > My idea with bhyve was closer to a lightweight virtualized Windows
> kernel operating in the background, where the GUI windows are seamlessly
> integrated into the FreeBSD desktop environment (like seamless mode in
> VirtualBox or WSLg in Linux). I thought bhyve could achieve better raw
> hardware compatibility for specific professional Windows apps. Example
> Adobe?.
>
> You probably noticed that Bhyve still uses VNC for a remote desktop
> and that makes it even worse for graphics / cad applications than
> VirtualBox that at least offers direct rendering.
>
> I would suggest looking at Bhyve and improve display (i.e. no latency
> + vulkan / opengl rendering) in the first place :-)
>
> --
> CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
>
>

-- 
Mario.