Re: If we are so opposed to Docker and Kubernetes, what is the real alternative on BSD?

On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 3:13 PM Alejandro Imass <aimass@yabarana.com> wrote:

> I made the title provocative for a flame but in good faith, so hear me out
> ;-)
>
> Being a FreeBSD user for many years I perfectly understand why supporting
> Docker is useless outside of virtualization or just for fun. I only put it
> in the subject to get your attention.
>
> But can the same be said of Kubernetes? In the understanding that k8s
> relies on some Linux specific things like namespaces and control groups
> etc. but we have similar utilities that could be used, so not sure why no
> serious effort to port k8s to BSD so far...
>
> Moreover, why is there not a serious alternative to Kubernetes-like, or a
> FreeBSd native Kubernetes port, at this point in 2024 ? I've read comments
> about Nomad but does it actually work with Bastille for example ? I mean we
> have all the building blocks, and we invented "container" so wtf is there
> no similar orchestration and auto scaling jail technology at our disposal
> on FBSD so far ?
>
> What am I missing?
>

You're missing the fact that you could virtualize a Linux host and run all
those Docker/k8s inside it and just proxy access to them.
For example, I am running https://ushahidi.kictanet.or.ke/views/map inside
an Ubuntu VM under bhyve. Apache on the FreeBSD host is doing the proxy.

PS: I am lucky to be the 1st one to pour more fuel into your flame :-)


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