Re: RFC: Should copy_file_range(2) return after a few seconds?

Van: Rick Macklem <rick.macklem@gmail.com>
Datum: 9 november 2025 00:23
Aan: FreeBSD CURRENT <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
CC: Peter 'PMc' Much <pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org>
Onderwerp: RFC: Should copy_file_range(2) return after a few seconds?

> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Peter Much reported a problem on the freebsd-fs@ mailing
> list on Oct. 21 under the Subject: "Why does rangelock_enqueue()
> hang for hours?".
> 
> The problem was that he had a copy_file_range(2) copying
> between a large NFS file and a local file that was taking 2hrs.
> While this copy_file_range(2) was in progress, it was holding
> a rangelock for the entire output file, causing another process
> trying to read the output file to hang, waiting for the rangelock.
> 
> Since copy_file_range(2) is not any standard (just trying to
> emulate the Linux one), there is no definitive answer w.r.t.
> should it hold rangelocks.  However, that is how it is currently
> coded and I, personally, think it is appropriate to do so.
> 
> Having a copy_file_range(2) syscall take two hours is
> definitely an unusual case, but it does seem that it is
> excessive?
> 
> Peter tried a quick patch I gave him that limited the
> copy_file_range(2) to 1sec and it fixed the problem
> he was observing.
> 
> Which brings me to the question...
> Should copy_file_range(2) be time limited?
> And, if the answer to this is "yes", how long do
> you think the time limit should be?
> (1sec, 2-5sec or ??)
> 
> Note that the longer you allow copy_file_range(2)
> to continue, the more efficient it will be.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any comments, rick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


Why is this locking needed?
AFAIK Unix has advisory locking, so if you read a file somebody else is writing the result is your own problem. It is up to the applications to adhere to the locking.
Is this a lock different than file locking from user space?
Why can’t this tail a file that is being written by copy_file_range if none of the applications request a lock?

Regards,
Ronald.