Re: "etcupdate extract" -- Failed to build new tree.

Looking at the log from etcupdate I found it failing with

chmod 755 mk_cmds
rm -f et-h-ss_err.et et-h-ss_err.c et-h-ss_err.h
cp /usr/src/crypto/krb5/src/util/ss/ss_err.et et-h-ss_err.et
compile_et -d /usr/src/crypto/krb5/src/util/et --textdomain mit-krb5
et-h-ss_err.et
+ /usr/bin/awk -f /usr/src/crypto/krb5/src/util/et/et_h.awk
'outfile=et-h-ss_err.h' et-h-ss_err.et
+ /usr/bin/awk -f /usr/src/crypto/krb5/src/util/et/et_c.awk
'outfile=et-h-ss_err.c' 'textdomain=mit-krb5' 'localedir=' et-h-ss_err.et
mv et-h-ss_err.h ss_err.h
rm -f et-h-ss_err.et et-h-ss_err.h
./mk_cmds /usr/src/crypto/krb5/src/util/ss/std_rqs.ct
make[4]: exec(./mk_cmds): Permission denied
*** Error code 1

Stop.
make[4]: stopped making "all" in /usr/src/krb5/util/ss
*** Error code 1

Stop.
make[3]: stopped making "bootstrap-tools" in /usr/src
       10.16 real         8.75 user         1.04 sys
*** Error code 1

Stop.
make[2]: stopped making "_bootstrap-tools" in /usr/src
*** Error code 1

Stop.
make[1]: stopped making "buildetc" in /usr/src
*** Error code 1

Stop.
make: stopped making "buildetc" in /usr/src

It fails, because it is not allowed to "exec ./mk_cmds", after setting
"chmod 0755" for "mk_cmds"? Within "/usr/src" "mk_cmds" just does not exist
– as long as "find /usr/src -iname '*mk_cmds*' -print" would be able to
find it:
/usr/src # find . -iname '*/mk_cmds/*'
/usr/src #

"/usr/src" is mounted
zroot/usr/src on /usr/src (zfs, local, noexec, nosuid, nfsv4acls)

AND what makes it even more mysterious:
# cd /usr/src
# make buildetc

works without reporting any error. If called from "etcupdate extract" it
fails.

It works for FreeBSD:
- stable/13
- stable/14

but not for:
- stable/15

Full log is attached.

On Tue, Nov 4, 2025 at 4:00 PM Sulev-Madis Silber <
freebsd-current-freebsd-org111@ketas.si.pri.ee> wrote:

> something bad clearly happened in that machine if it's able to selfhost
> build itself and work, except etcupdate. and that for a long time
>
> i don't see any reason getting pissed about his machine mysteriously not
> working, despite i haven't broken any machine myself since i installed
> first fbsd, 4.6
>
> unsure how to go from here. unsure if src.conf or make.conf matters here
>
> if this happens in currently actively supported fbsd release, maybe
> etcupdate needs a bugfix to cleanup for edge cases
>
> if it's in unsupported, that should not cause any "pissages" either. fix
> is somewhere
>
> so, the admin updated files manually because he was not able to get it
> working? i bet you can recreate it and fix it for future cases
>
> since i haven't ever broken etcupdate, i don't know which data it uses as
> input. but seems like it reads wrong data out of somewhere. and entire
> machine works, except this?
>
> i mean if this was bad upgrade leftover, how to fix? i mean doesn't
> etcupdate get rework now, for pkgbase. while we do that, maybe it could be
> made to handle this. or maybe even given non-destructive nuke mode so
> people can start clean
>
> i don't think it's really entirely user error, considering he didn't break
> the machine
>
> i'm curious too. at worst you could do other install in another machine
> and compare dirs as something must differ there. then, according to
> findings, fix the old machine. maybe while doing this, some new bugfix idea
> appears
>
> but hell with getting mad over machine. he's pissed too, everyone's
> pissed, server is not working and no productive work have been done here
>
> maybe something got lost in translation too
>
>

-- 
Thomas