Re: What happen to mailing list archives?

8 juin 2021 13:15:50 Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de>:

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> On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 22:35:20 +0200
> Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
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>> On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 12:30:46AM -0700, Mark Millard wrote:
>>> On 2021-Jun-6, at 13:25, Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>>> Baptiste Daroussin <bapt_at_FreeBSD.org> wrote on
>>>> Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2021 10:53:49 +0200 :
>>>>  
>>>>> What has happended:
>>>>> plan A: we migrated everything off mailman/pipermail seamlessly
>>>>> with redirection and so on. We patched the new archiver to
>>>>> produce the same file names has pipermail
>>>>>
>>>>> Plan A worked fine up to a limit, there was plenty of hand
>>>>> edition in the past, we we decided to move to plan B which is
>>>>> what is happening now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Plan B: We keep a frozen version of the archives up to the
>>>>> migration date under the pipermail directory and have the new
>>>>> archives created in the archives directory.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the pipermail archives have been restored as they were. The
>>>>> new archives receives in their index a new link to point people
>>>>> to the pipermails archive if looking for older archives.
>>>>>
>>>>> this has been done a couple of hours ago (before Steve emails)
>>>>> during a window, of ~ 10 hours, the mailing lists which slow
>>>>> traffic aka the one which didn't received any email since the
>>>>> migration ended up with an empty "archives" directory (aka a
>>>>> 404), a file with explanation and redirection to pipermail has
>>>>> been installed there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some work is still needed for the mailing lists which has been
>>>>> transformed as readonly, this will be done in the next couple of
>>>>> days 
>>>>
>>>> It is too bad that a reference to a "no examples yet"
>>>> month, such as, (at the time I write this):
>>>>
>>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-toolchain/2021-June/date.html
>>>>
>>>> does not show at least (Date view specific example):
>>>>
>>>>   • Other periods:[ Previous, Date view ] [ List of Folders
>>>> ]
>>>>   • Other: [ Actives mailing lists ] [ Archives from
>>>> mailman's time ]
>>>>
>>>> when there are prior months available in
>>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/ or show at least just:
>>>>
>>>>   • Other: [ Actives mailing lists ] [ Archives from
>>>> mailman's time ]
>>>>
>>>> when no prior months are available there.
>>>>  
>>>
>>> Looks like there are missing months.
>>>
>>> Using freebsd-hackers as an example:
>>>
>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/index.html
>>> shows the oldest month being "May 2021".
>>>
>>> But . . .
>>>
>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/
>>> shows the most recent month being "September 2020".
>>>
>>> So: 2020-Oct through 2021-Apr are completely missing.
>>>
>>> Then, going for more detail for 2020-Sep and 2021-May . . .
>>>
>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/2021-May/date.html
>>> shows "Starting Tue May 18 2021 - 21:07:44 UTC".
>>>
>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2020-September/date.html
>>> shows "Ending: Tue Sep 15 14:12:20 UTC 2020".
>>>
>>> So there are about 2 more half-months missing.
>>>
>>> Some other lists have other date ranges, some similar,
>>> some not. 
>>
>> This missing month are being populated right now
>
> Will historic links still work though (so that old references work and
> current google results are ok)?
>
> Just stumbled over this one:
> https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-jail/2017-March/003360.html
>
Old reference yes, not the one that lived a couple of weeks like this one

Bapt