From nobody Tue Jun 08 11:18:00 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C29F7DD3E for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2021 11:18:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Fznlw01Vjz4VVd; Tue, 8 Jun 2021 11:18:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from aniel.nours.eu (ns393929.ip-176-31-115.eu [176.31.115.77]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: bapt) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C31DD77CB; Tue, 8 Jun 2021 11:18:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (19.197.204.77.rev.sfr.net [77.204.197.19]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by aniel.nours.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2E07176F72; Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:18:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 11:18:00 +0000 (UTC) From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Michael Gmelin Cc: Mark Millard , freebsd-current Message-ID: <41e265dd-d9b5-48d5-adc5-099a3a8d93bb@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20210608131526.36b494ad@bsd64.grem.de> References: <0E72BE08-BC5A-41F8-8048-C5E8ADE947AF@yahoo.com> <20210607203520.ez47pfjey6evr65w@aniel.nours.eu> <20210608131526.36b494ad@bsd64.grem.de> Subject: Re: What happen to mailing list archives? List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Correlation-ID: <41e265dd-d9b5-48d5-adc5-099a3a8d93bb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam: Yes X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N 8 juin 2021 13:15:50 Michael Gmelin : > > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 22:35:20 +0200 > Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 12:30:46AM -0700, Mark Millard wrote: >>> On 2021-Jun-6, at 13:25, Mark Millard wrote: >>> =C2=A0 >>>> Baptiste Daroussin wrote on >>>> Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2021 10:53:49 +0200 : >>>> =C2=A0 >>>>> What has happended: >>>>> plan A: we migrated everything off mailman/pipermail seamlessly >>>>> with redirection and so on. We patched the new archiver to >>>>> produce the same file names has pipermail >>>>> >>>>> Plan A worked fine up to a limit, there was plenty of hand >>>>> edition in the past, we we decided to move to plan B which is >>>>> what is happening now. >>>>> >>>>> Plan B: We keep a frozen version of the archives up to the >>>>> migration date under the pipermail directory and have the new >>>>> archives created in the archives directory. >>>>> >>>>> All the pipermail archives have been restored as they were. The >>>>> new archives receives in their index a new link to point people >>>>> to the pipermails archive if looking for older archives. >>>>> >>>>> this has been done a couple of hours ago (before Steve emails) >>>>> during a window, of ~ 10 hours, the mailing lists which slow >>>>> traffic aka the one which didn't received any email since the >>>>> migration ended up with an empty "archives" directory (aka a >>>>> 404), a file with explanation and redirection to pipermail has >>>>> been installed there. >>>>> >>>>> Some work is still needed for the mailing lists which has been >>>>> transformed as readonly, this will be done in the next couple of >>>>> days=C2=A0 >>>> >>>> It is too bad that a reference to a "no examples yet" >>>> month, such as, (at the time I write this): >>>> >>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-toolchain/2021-June/date.ht= ml >>>> >>>> does not show at least (Date view specific example): >>>> >>>> =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 Other periods:[ Previous, Date view ] [ List of Folde= rs >>>> ] >>>> =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 Other: [ Actives mailing lists ] [ Archives from >>>> mailman's time ] >>>> >>>> when there are prior months available in >>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/ or show at least just: >>>> >>>> =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 Other: [ Actives mailing lists ] [ Archives from >>>> mailman's time ] >>>> >>>> when no prior months are available there. >>>> =C2=A0 >>> >>> Looks like there are missing months. >>> >>> Using freebsd-hackers as an example: >>> >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/index.html >>> shows the oldest month being "May 2021". >>> >>> But . . . >>> >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/ >>> shows the most recent month being "September 2020". >>> >>> So: 2020-Oct through 2021-Apr are completely missing. >>> >>> Then, going for more detail for 2020-Sep and 2021-May . . . >>> >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/2021-May/date.html >>> shows "Starting Tue May 18 2021 - 21:07:44 UTC". >>> >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2020-September/date= .html >>> shows "Ending: Tue Sep 15 14:12:20 UTC 2020". >>> >>> So there are about 2 more half-months missing. >>> >>> Some other lists have other date ranges, some similar, >>> some not.=C2=A0 >> >> This missing month are being populated right now > > Will historic links still work though (so that old references work and > current google results are ok)? > > Just stumbled over this one: > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-jail/2017-March/003360.html > Old reference yes, not the one that lived a couple of weeks like this one Bapt