Re: [HEADSUP] making /bin/sh the default shell for root

From: Mariusz Zaborski <>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 11:03:54 UTC
+1 from me.

On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 12:31, Chris Stephan <> wrote:

> I completely agree. It will save me the ‘/bin/sh’ at the beginning of each
> ‘su -‘ session. Also, it will simplify building extra small FreeBSD images,
> allowing an easier removal of ‘csh’.
> I use csh from time to time, but I do wish it would take a much more
> explicit action so my brain has switched over to ‘csh mode’. I won’t lie
> that I’ve pasted script into my terminal and spent time troubleshooting why
> the commands didn’t work only to realize I forgot to change to /bin/sh
> first.
> Chris Stephan
> Sent from FreeBSD
> ________________________________
> From: <>
> on behalf of Baptiste Daroussin <>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:36:45 AM
> To: <>;
> <>
> Subject: [HEADSUP] making /bin/sh the default shell for root
> Hello,
> TL;DR: this is not a proposal to deorbit csh from base!!!
> For years now, csh is the default root shell for FreeBSD, csh can be
> confusing
> as a default shell for many as all other unix like settled on a bourne
> shell
> compatible interactive shell: zsh, bash, or variant of ksh.
> Recently our sh(1) has receive update to make it more user friendly in
> interactive mode:
> * command completion (thanks pstef@)
> * improvement in the emacs mode, to make it behave by default like other
> shells
> * improvement in the vi mode (in particular the vi edit to respect $EDITOR)
> * support for history as described by POSIX.
> This makes it a usable shell by default, which is why I would like to
> propose to
> make it the default shell for root starting FreeBSD 14.0-RELEASE (not
> MFCed)
> If no strong arguments has been raised until October 15th, I will make this
> proposal happen.
> Best regards,
> Baptiste