well, try here first...

Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC chad at shire.net
Wed Nov 14 04:13:49 UTC 2012


On Nov 13, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Polytropon wrote:
> 
> Ouch.
> 
> Unlike in English, the comma in German is an important symbol
> in grammar. It brings structure to sentences. In English, there
> is the "word order" that achieves this goal, and a comma is
> mostly optional or "left to preferences". In German, there are
> rules where to place a comma, and where not to. Those rules
> are relatively easy to understand, and luckily they do not
> leave much space for individual preferences. :-)
> 
> In the above example,
> 
> 	Playboy, alles was Maennern Spass macht
> 
> or better using a hyphen
> 
> 	Playboy - alles was Maennern Spass macht
> 
> would have been correct, as it's shown on the current web page
> in a correct manner.

To be fair, a lot of the same rules exist for English.  The comma is not optional or left to preferences in English, either.  There are definite rules and it brings structure.   Unfortunately, lots of people forget (or don't pay attention to) these rules, or, they are casual with them in the casual forms of communication, like email.  (And there are some people who believe that the "text" language is English -- OMG, WTF, GR8, B4, LOL, etc -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text_language )

Wie mit deutscher Sprache, man kann (mit englischer Sprache) vieles mit der Wortstellung machen.  Und dazu, ist, natürlich, die richtige Anwendung (und Verständnis) der Grammatik wichtig.
(Like with the German language, one can do a lot with word order (in English).   And for that, the proper use and understanding of Grammar is important)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eats,_Shoots_%26_Leaves

Und "Playboy alles was Maennern Spass macht" ist 100% verständlich auf deutsch, da es einen richtigen Dativ Kasus gibt, im Gegensatz zu englischer Sprache.
(and "playboy -- everything that is fun for men" [in German] is 100% understandable in German, because there is a real dative case in German, unlike in english.)

Gruss aus Utah
Chad



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