Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT.

Gary Kline kline at
Fri May 30 19:04:22 UTC 2008

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 01:31:01AM -0400, DAve wrote:
> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: owner-freebsd-questions at
> >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions at]On Behalf Of Gary Kline
> >>Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:51 PM
> >>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> >>Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List
> >>Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT.
> >>
> >>
> >>	you probably didn't start with the earlier markup.  back then,
> >>	'93-4, there was <BR>,<P>, <B>, and <EM>.   i wrote a 2.2K-line 
> >>	program to handle "hi" -> ``hi'' and a couple other things.
> >>	the code has evolved, of course, but still works.
> >>
> >
> >Not the case.  I use vi myself and I eschew background gifs and
> >such.  Web pages that I create are black text on a white back
> >ground interspersed with images when needed.  Period.  No CSS no frames, no
> >nothing.  If the content I put up isn't worth reading
> >then no amount of formatting, font specification, animated
> >images, and so forth is going to get people to look at it,
> >is my feeling.
> I nearly spit coffee on my keyboard! I agree with you 100%. When we all 
> did HTML with BBedit and Textpad, people like Black, Tog, and Nielsen 
> kept everyone designing websites to best serve the content. Now it is 
> all about the sizzle, but there is rarely a steak.
> DAve

	You got it, man.  At least 80% of the site I happen on--at least
	that are selling something--have so much kerrapp going on I'd go
	blind if I stayed there for very long.   (I so *enjoy* being able
	to block ads or stop-movie (gnash), and then find the router or
	DVD or whatever.  And get out!) 

	This is not the kind of page i'M aiming for.   --But then, I
	really don't know what/how I want to revise my www homepage.

	The reason for the strange display was a bad comment.  So at
	least I've learned something!   Now www looks fine from ffox, 
	opera, and Konq. I've forbidden my tweenager from using IE so
	have to wait for wife.  Or see if friends reply who use IE.


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