[CFR] Remove texinfo from base

Baptiste Daroussin bapt at FreeBSD.org
Fri Jul 11 00:09:03 UTC 2014


On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 07:59:13PM -0400, John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell wrote:
> Warner Losh wrote:
> > On Jun 25, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt at FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> > 
> >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 08:20:41AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
> >>> On Jun 25, 2014, at 4:00 AM, Matthew D. Fuller <fullermd at over-yonder.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 12:52:10PM +0200 I heard the voice of
> >>>> Baptiste Daroussin, and lo! it spake thus:
> >>>>> I have just committed the support for this in ports, anyway breakage
> >>>>> should be reported, right now it seems fine on my exp-run
> >>>> Oh, yes.  Sorry, I did phrase that poorly.  This shouldn't _break_
> >>>> anything, but I suspect it will uncover existing-but-hidden breakage.
> >>>>
> >>>> Which is good.  But does merit awareness that "hey, this will probably
> >>>> happen somewhere, so know this is a place to look when a build
> >>>> breaks".
> >>> I know it will break certain nanobsd configurations that build ports because
> >>> dependencies there (at least for the ones I’ve done) aren’t well handled. So
> >>> I agree that this patch is missing, at the very least, an UPDATING entry and
> >>> a __FreeBSD_version bump.
> >> If you build a port that needs texinfo the port framework will do what it needs
> > 
> > Except in environments that don’t do dependencies quite right, or where only a subset
> > of ports tree has been imported and texinfo isn’t part of that…  But people with them
> > usually know, which is why UPDATING is needed. That’s all. There’s nothing else for you
> > to do.
> > 
> > Warner
> 
> i a few times heard there was and IS a long standing stand-off between 
> info(1) and man(1) because man was copyright at least in part and 
> further reasons that were not discussed.
> 
> remove the ability to look at existing info pages of say m4.info why?

We do not have m4.info pages and so for a while :) in base because we do not
have GNU m4 in base.
> 
> replace it with what ?
> 
> i'm impartial.  i like both, made a manpage maker, would like a good 
> info editor haven't come across yet.  coolman in nonfree, tkinfo is 
> free. debian won't allow manpages on it's user groups
> 
> do you know anything about this standoff between the online page and 
> online manual systems ?
> 
> are you saying that whatever microbsd prefers should be the base of bsd ?
> 
> is microbsd used by Apple or something ?

[...] skipping the above because I don't understand how it comes to the
conversation.

If you want to read info pages just install texinfo from ports or add WITH_INFO
in your src.conf.

regards,
Bapt
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