considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture

Kimmo Paasiala kpaasial at gmail.com
Tue Apr 2 10:43:57 UTC 2013


On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Achim Hut <achimhut at achimhut.de> wrote:
> Am 02.04.2013 12:13, schrieb Kimmo Paasiala:
>
>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
>> <m.e.sanliturk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des at des.no> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wojciech Puchar <wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> Lev Serebryakov <lev at FreeBSD.org> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is not exact so. Some Atoms on some motherboards with some
>>>>>> firmwares are 64-bit CPU.
>>>>>
>>>>> don't know of any now in shops that are not
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://soekris.com/products/net5501.html
>>>> http://soekris.com/products/net6501.html
>>>>
>>>> DES
>>>> --
>>>> Dag-Erling Smørgrav - des at des.no
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am NOT able to understand the merit of these products with respect to
>>> their features and PRICES .
>>>
>>> It is possible to assemble much more cheaper full featured PC like
>>> systems
>>> ( DDR3 memory , 64-bit capable processors , with a disadvantage about
>>> power
>>> requirements ) .
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Power consumption.
>
>
>
>
> ...Space - Price - temperature, easy to use, no Fans, no Noise...
>
> I was surprised about this discussion and first thought, its some kind of
> april joke.
>
> Everybody talks about cheap new 64 bit hardware
>
> But how about the hardware people are actualy using? In our datacenter we
> are running (beside 64bit machines) a large amount of 32bit servers. We have
> a room full of spare parts, spare servers...
>
> And we have no reason to change them to 64bit hardware. HP, IBM, they all
> run since years and i am shure, they make 5-10 more years :-)
>
> And we dont want to stop using FreeBSD after V9.x or so.
>
> Dont forget there are a lot of different people with different needs out
> there. Not everybody puts his focus on a cheap desktop PC thats thrown away
> after 3 years
>
> Achim

It is in fact an April Fools Joke :D

However, it does not invalidate some of the points made. ARM is going
to dominate the desktop/laptop/tablet/smartphone market very soon and
it would be very wise for FreeBSD to shift the focus to it as soon as
possible.

-Kimmo


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