Removing CVS from HEAD

Julian H. Stacey jhs at berklix.com
Fri Sep 14 16:26:28 UTC 2012


> On 2012-Sep-13 14:49:20 +0200, "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs at berklix.com> wrote:
> >=3D?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=3DC3=3DB8rgrav?=3D wrote:
> >> Which other Unices provide CVS out of the box?
> 
> I notice you've carefully avoided answering this.

I included all from DES to be polite, to make sure I didn't take DES out of
context, despite he took me out context. DES's question
	"Which other Unices provide CVS out of the box?"
while good, is one I have no further (*) time for.  You in the
remove CVS camp should have know or researched it before you proposed
to remove CVS.


> >DES hyperbole discarded, CVS would be just one more issue just for some.
> 
> The hyperbole here is coming from you, not des at .

False. DES twisted context, & exagerated between these

 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2012-September/013057.html
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2012-September/013058.html


(*) I had started researching other Unixes with CVS before DES asked,
& I found refs, but agression kills motivation & I must travel.
You in the remove CVS camp proposed change; Do your own search work.


> >Some might agressively pitch for a short timescale, but if CVS goes,
> >FreeBSD will hopefuly look beyond just its developers' group, remember its
> >users, & consider a schedule similar to one a OS software manager would.
> 
> CVS is a development tool and the version in FreeBSD base was intended
> for FreeBSD development.  People using CVS for other purposes are
> unlikely to be best served by using an unmaintained and modified variant
> of an obsolete version of CVS.

OK,  Would have been good mentioned earlier, eg when DES was
flattening someone's idea to look at upgrading CVS to http://www.OpenCVS.org.

> As for the schedule, as has been repeatedly stated, this change will
only affect 10.x and later.  If this proposal goes ahead, the first
> FreeBSD release to not have CVS in the base will be 10.0-RELEASE -
> which (IMHO) is unlikely to appear for another year.  And 9.x will
> continue to include CVS in the base and should be supported for at
> least 2 years after 10.0-RELEASE comes out.  Thus, anyone currently
> relying on the base CVS has at least 3 years to plan their transition.

OK, May be sufficient for many tracking FreeBSD.
How many Unixes beyond may find your proposed change a nuisance, is unknown.

Cheers,
Julian
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