svn commit: r197065 - in stable/8: etc/defaults lib/libc/stdlib sys/amd64/conf sys/i386/conf sys/ia64/conf sys/pc98/conf sys/powerpc/conf sys/sparc64/conf

Brooks Davis brooks at
Thu Sep 10 20:31:34 UTC 2009

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 05:36:56PM +0200, Ivan Voras wrote:
> 2009/9/10 Ken Smith <kensmith at>:
> > On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 15:29 +0100, Gavin Atkinson wrote:
> >> This seems like a step backwards to me: crash dumps have been left
> >> enabled in 7.x and have proved very useful from the point of view of
> >> improved quality of received PRs. ??I'm not aware of any problems
> >> relating to leaving them enabled.
> >>
> >> I'd appreciate it if this decision was reconsidered.
> >>
> >
> > Unfortunately as I said before there is no "Right answer" for this one.
> No, but there is an "80% right" one, based on the question: did the
> change in 7 cause known problems for any significant number of users
> (or one of two big users - that should be enough).

Given that we've shipped three releases with it this way we should have
an answer here.  If we can't identify real problem instances by now,
there probably aren't significant ones in practice.  IMO, we have always
gone too far in disabling debugging.

-- Brooks
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