svn commit: r344648 - in head: . sys/kern sys/sys
Ian Lepore
ian at freebsd.org
Sat Jun 1 15:19:48 UTC 2019
On Sat, 2019-06-01 at 11:02 +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote:
> On 01/06/2019 03:46, Warner Losh wrote:
> > When we move to git, stuff like this just won't matter. So it's
> > hard to get
> > worked up about it now... and even if we weren't heading that way,
> > the history
> > preserved is so small as to say more than "meh" here. There is too
> > little ROI to
> > get worked up about.
>
> Still, even a token reply would have been nice. Much better than
> starting to
> ignore *everything* that a fellow developer writes.
> "Yeah, looks like I screwed up. But fixing it is more work than it's
> worth.
> Sorry about that. Thanks."
>
The point is, a few people in the project have proven themselves to be
noise generators with annoying whinging and nagging about tiny
insigificant issues. That earns them a mail rule that simply discards
all incoming mail from them. So, unsurprisingly: no reply.
There are 3 project memembers I've written such rules for, although two
of those rules are currently disabled (but I didn't delete them because
I have a feeling I'm going to use them again some day).
-- Ian
> > On Fri, May 31, 2019, 4:56 PM Kevin Bowling <
> > kevin.bowling at kev009.com
> > <mailto:kevin.bowling at kev009.com>> wrote:
> >
> > The vast majority of contributors don't enjoy nit-picking on
> > these
> > trivialities. If the broader developer community is not
> > rallying for
> > the revert and some core conspiracy doesn't care about it
> > either, that
> > forms the de facto opinion of the FreeBSD community of today
> > that this
> > is trivial and irrelevant.
> >
> > Yes, there is vocal absolutism on the fringes about SHALLS and
> > MUSTS
> > about all sorts of things aside from modernizing FreeBSD and
> > making it
> > viable on current generation hardware. These parties might be
> > happier
> > and better aligned with OpenBSD ideologically as well as
> > personalities.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kevin
> >
> > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 3:17 PM Rodney W. Grimes
> > <freebsd at gndrsh.dnsmgr.net <mailto:freebsd at gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I know of several people that have blocked your mail.
> > Maybe a moment
> > > > for reflection on your attitude and approach if you want to
> > be taken
> > > > seriously.
> > >
> > > I would consider repository damange and abuse to be VERY
> > serious.
> > > I would also consider the treatmeant I am seeing of danfe
> > boarder
> > > line on contempt.
> > > But then I also know there are probably some that have
> > blocked me.
> > > The project, sadly is spiraling around a toilet, and someone
> > is about to
> > flush....
> > >
> > > It is not what you hear, it is what you are not hearing that
> > makes me say
> > these things...
> > > And espcially what core seams to not be willing to hear, and
> > is literly (I
> > can proove this)
> > > paying lip service to "solicited feedback".
> > >
> > > I asked about some of my solicited feedback, and a core
> > member said he
> > > could not find it in his inbox and that I needed to locate
> > and provide
> > > him a pointer to it. THAT my friends is not solicited
> > feedback, that is
> > > /dev/null of feedback and just plain out right unexcusable.
> > >
> > > And note above all else the "product" of the FreeBSD project
> > is NOT
> > > releases, it IS the repository, and if we get sloppy with
> > that product
> > > it makes life harder for our consumers. If you have ever
> > tried to
> > > find the history of a deleted object (which is what the
> > process being
> > > complained about here creaetes) it is a royal PITA.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Rod
> > >
> > > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:50 AM Alexey Dokuchaev <
> > danfe at freebsd.org
> > <mailto:danfe at freebsd.org>> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 03:20:50PM +0000, Brooks Davis
> > wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 09:11:36AM +0000, Alexey
> > Dokuchaev wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 03:11:40PM +0000, Alexey
> > Dokuchaev wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 07:47:51AM +0000, Alexey
> > Dokuchaev wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 10:56:55PM +0000, Mateusz
> > Guzik wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > New Revision: 344648
> > > > > > > > > > URL:
> > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/344648
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Log:
> > > > > > > > > > Rename seq to seqc to avoid namespace clashes
> > with Linux
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > Added:
> > > > > > > > > > head/sys/sys/seqc.h (contents, props
> > changed)
> > > > > > > > > > Deleted:
> > > > > > > > > > head/sys/sys/seq.h
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why it was deleted and added as new file instead
> > of being
> > repocopied?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Retransmit.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ping!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you have nothing better to do?
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, I have a lot on my plate, thanks for asking. Now,
> > back to the
> > subject:
> > > > >
> > > > > - I think that this commit was executed badly (not via
> > repocopy)
> > > > > - I've been trying to contact mjg@ for several weeks, to
> > no avail :(
> > > > > - All I get in return is an email from a fellow committer
> > asking me
> > > > > if I have anything better to do
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry, I don't understand this. I don't understand why
> > we ignore email
> > > > > from our own community. I don't understand why we do not
> > correct or at
> > > > > least explain why what looks like a mistake is actually
> > not(?). I don't
> > > > > understand why I'm being ridiculed, not those who make
> > dubious commits
> > > > > and fail to defend them.
> > > > >
> > > > > ./danfe
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> > >
> > > --
> > > Rod Grimes
> > rgrimes at freebsd.org <mailto:rgrimes at freebsd.org>
> >
>
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