svn commit: r327559 - in head: . sys/net

hiren panchasara hiren at strugglingcoder.info
Fri Jan 5 09:41:24 UTC 2018


On 01/04/18 at 11:37P, Steven Hartland wrote:
> 
> 
> On 04/01/2018 22:42, hiren panchasara wrote:
> > On 01/04/18 at 09:52P, Steven Hartland wrote:
> >> On 04/01/2018 20:50, Eugene Grosbein wrote:
> >>> 05.01.2018 3:05, Steven Hartland wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Author: smh
> >>>> Date: Thu Jan  4 20:05:47 2018
> >>>> New Revision: 327559
> >>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/327559
> >>>>
> >>>> Log:
> >>>>     Disabled the use of flowid for lagg by default
> >>>>     
> >>>>     Disabled the use of RSS hash from the network card aka flowid for
> >>>>     lagg(4) interfaces by default as it's currently incompatible with
> >>>>     the lacp and loadbalance protocols.
> >>>>     
> >>>>     The incompatibility is due to the fact that the flowid isn't know
> >>>>     for the first packet of a new outbound stream which can result in
> >>>>     the hash calculation method changing and hence a stream being
> >>>>     incorrectly split across multiple interfaces during normal
> >>>>     operation.
> >>>>     
> >>>>     This can be re-enabled by setting the following in loader.conf:
> >>>>     net.link.lagg.default_use_flowid="1"
> >>>>     
> >>>>     Discussed with: kmacy
> >>>>     Sponsored by:	Multiplay
> >>> RSS by definition has meaning to received stream. What is "outbound" stream
> >>> in this context, why can the hash calculatiom method change and what exactly
> >>> does it mean "a stream being incorrectly split"?
> >> Yes RSS is indeed a received stream but that is used by lagg for lacp
> >> and loadbalance protocols to decide which port of the lagg to "send" the
> >> packet out of. As the flowid is not known when a new "output" stream is
> >> instigated the current code falls back to manual hash calculation to
> >> determine which port to send the initial packet from. Once a response is
> >> received a tx then uses the flowid. This change of hash calculation
> >> method can result in the initial packet being sent from a different port
> >> than the rest of the stream; this is what I meant by "incorrectly split".
> > For my understanding, is this just an issue for the first packet when we
> > originate the flow? Once we have a response and if flowid is there, we'd
> > use it, right? OR am I missing something?
> Initially yes, but that can cause a whole cascading set of problems. If 
> the source machine sends from two different ports then flow can traverse 
> across the network using different paths and hence arrive at the 
> destination on different ports too, causing the corresponding? issue on 
> the other side.
> > And with this change, we'd always go and do manual calculation even when
> > we have a valid flowid (i.e. we didn't initiate a connection)?
> Correct, but there's potentially no easy way to correctly determine what 
> the flowid and hence hash should be in this case, likely impossible if 
> the lagg consists of different interface types.
> 
> In addition if the hardware hash doesn't match the requested one as per 
> laggproto then additional issues could also be triggered.
> 
> Our TCP stack seems fragile during setup to out of order packets which 
> this multipath behavior causes, we've seen this on our loadbalancers 
> which is what triggered the investigation. The concrete result is many 
> aborted TCP connections, over 300k ~2% on the machine I'm looking at.
> 
> I hope there's some improvements that can be made, for example if we can 
> determine the stream was instigated remotely then flowid would always be 
> valid hence we can use it assuming it matches the requested spec or if 
> we can make it clear to the user that laggproto is not the one they 
> requested, I'm open to ideas?

IIRC, with 'RSS' in kernconf, most NIC drivers and stack should do the
right thing. Look at drivers and also conn startup code in TCP as I
recall it doing the flowid mapping correctly when stream originated from
the other side and had flowid assigned to it by the NIC.

I am mostly concerned about the overhead of manual calculation but my
knowledge is a bit rusty right now and lagg has always been special so
please try this out and see.

Thank you.
Hiren
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