svn commit: r289421 - in head/etc: . mtree ntp

Warner Losh imp at bsdimp.com
Sat Oct 17 19:24:15 UTC 2015


> On Oct 17, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Bryan Drewery <bdrewery at freebsd.org> wrote:
> 
> On 10/17/15 11:25 AM, Ian Lepore wrote:
>> On Fri, 2015-10-16 at 14:04 +0000, Cy Schubert wrote:
>>> Author: cy
>>> Date: Fri Oct 16 14:04:16 2015
>>> New Revision: 289421
>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/289421
>>> 
>>> Log:
>>>  Add default leap-seconds file. This should help ntp networks get
>>> the
>>>  leap second date correct
>>> 
>>>  Updates to the file can be obtained from ftp://time.nist.gov/pub/ o
>>> r
>>>  ftp://tycho.usno.navy.mil/pub/ntp/.
>>> 
>>>  Suggested by:	dwmalone
>>>  Reviewed by:	roberto, dwmalone, delphij
>>>  Approved by:	roberto
>>>  MFC after:	1 week
>> 
>> One thing about this change scares me.  In the ntpd documentation:
>> 
>>    If the leapseconds file is present, the leap bits for reference
>>    clocks and downstratum servers are ignored.
>> 
>> I can't determine from casual code examination (and I don't have time
>> to experiment now) whether that is true even if the file is expired.
>> 
>> The leapfile expires every six months, and users must update it using
>> some external mechanism, or they must have configured autokey stuff so
>> that updates can be accepted from peer servers.  In either case what
>> we've done is created a default configuration that is likely to fail
>> right out of the box, because at least for releases the file we deliver
>> will be expired before they even download and install the image.
>> 
>> At the very least I think we should hold off on MFC of this until we
>> know for sure whether an expired-but-present leapfile causes incorrect
>> operation.  If a pending leap notification in the leap bits of packets
>> from peer servers and refclocks will be honored when the file is
>> expired, then there is no problem with this change.
>> 
> 
> Yeah. This sounds like something that needs to be delivered more easily
> in a normal update mechanism, such as packages.  ENs every 6 months are
> not practical for this and a lot of users don't always apply EN while
> IMO they are more likely to apply package upgrades. Short of that, some
> kind of periodic script could fetch an updated file <enter ssl cacert
> discussion>.

The file itself is signed, but only weakly with a sha hash at the end. Don’t know if
the hash is one of the ones that’s been broken yet or not.

Warner
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