svn commit: r266806 - head/sys/netgraph

Julian Elischer julian at
Wed May 28 15:41:35 UTC 2014

On 5/28/14, 10:56 PM, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:12:32PM +0800, Julian Elischer wrote:
> J> On 5/28/14, 9:15 PM, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
> J> > Author: glebius
> J> > Date: Wed May 28 13:15:14 2014
> J> > New Revision: 266806
> J> > URL:
> J> >
> J> > Log:
> J> >    Use M_WAITOK for the NGM_PIPE_SET_CFG control message. We expect it to
> J> >    arrive from userland only.
> J> >
> J> >    Submitted by:	Dmitry Luhtionov <dmitryluhtionov>
> J> what's to stop another node from generating it and sending it on?
> J> generally a message may come from anywhere.
> J> Just becasue YOU don't have module that
> J> sends messages to ng_pipe, doesn't mean there never will be..
> J> also there are cases when the locking may force a message to be
> J> delivered asynchronously.
> I know that. After resolving many issues with netgraph, I feel that
> our policy should be towards putting some invariants on what events
> SHOULD come from userland only and which events SHOULD be serviced
> without memory failures.
> Current paradigma that messages are fully symmetrical and can come
> from anywhere are quite a curious thought experiment. I liked that
> for a long time. But in practice if we want to build a robust software
> we should make more strict rules of using it.
> You could disagree, but if you try to fix this particular one liner
> in the paradigma of "messages come from anywhere", then you will end
> up with smth like 20 lines of code to this particular module. Next
> comes the need to fix any software or script that sends NGM_PIPE_SET_CFG,
> it now should be taught of dealing with ENOMEM. So, instead of one
> liner you will bury yourself under tons of work.
Then I suggest that we increment the protocol, and add support to messages
to say whether they come from user space.
and some providers only accept such messages.

I have lost track of the code so I don't know if my comment about
messages getting queued instead of delivered is still true.
However if it is, then a message could be delivered by a kernel agent 
if it is initiated by a userspace program.

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