svn commit: r187132 - head/usr.bin/make

Ivan Voras ivoras at
Fri Jan 30 09:36:04 PST 2009

2009/1/30 Erik Trulsson <ertr1013 at>:
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 02:21:53PM +0100, Hartmut Brandt wrote:
>> Erik Trulsson wrote:
>> > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 01:02:15PM +0100, Ivan Voras wrote:
>> >> 2009/1/30 David O'Brien <obrien at>:
>> >>
>> >>> compiler invocation must really bug you.  Perhaps we should have the
>> >>> quiet out put of the ncftp3 build where every complication takes only
>> >>> 1 line:
>> >>>
>> >>>    Compiling                                     [OK]
>> >>>    Compiling                                    [OK]
>> >>>    Compiling                                     [OK]
>> >>>    Compiling                                     [OK]
>> >>>    Compiling                                     [OK]
>> >>>    ..snip..
>> >> I'd vote for that being the default :)
>> >
>> > I would not.  In fact I am quite happy that is not the default.
>> >
>> >> It's also the mode used by Linux kernel (note that it's not a pro or a
>> >> contra argument in itself), e.g.
>> >
>> > True, and it is a PITA when there is a problem with the compilation, since
>> > you need to add extra flags to the verbose output so you can find out what
>> > flags the compiler actually was invoked with.
>> I took that vote as a joke. It may only be a joke, right?
> It might well have been a joke.  Probably was in fact, but I am not willing
> to take any chances on that.

I hoped that the over-the-top youtube video soundtrack would be a cue
:) I was sure there was a video with parts of the Matrix soundtrack
somewhere but I couldn't find it...

But still, it's a long distance between what developers want and what
users want. In this case, the best thing for non-developer users would
be not to compile the system themselves but use bsdupdate for
upgrading, so it makes sense to keep the build process tailored for

(on-topic: I've used FreeBSD since 4.2, I don't care what was in 4.4BSD).

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