svn commit: r187132 - head/usr.bin/make

M. Warner Losh imp at
Fri Jan 30 07:57:14 PST 2009

In message: <20090130113402.GB92386 at>
            "David O'Brien" <obrien at> writes:
: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 01:55:18AM +0000, Dmitry Marakasov wrote:
: > * David E. O'Brien (obrien at wrote:
: > 
: > I think this should be backed out. Those verbose messages:
: > - Are completely unexpected, this violates POLA.
: Dmitry,
: I'm sorry I disagree.  You're complaining about something that is
: a feature of FreeBSD 1.x, 2.0 - 3.0, 4.4BSD, all NetBSD versions,
: all OpenBSD versions, Sprite, and the Open Group's Open Development
: Environment make.


I've said this before, and I'll say it again: The project is a very
different place than in 1994 when 3.0 was released.  You can't just
unilaterally make such a large, use-visible feature change without
discussion.  Your history lesson is interesting, but we've moved
beyond BSD in so many different ways.

Also, I'm pretty sure that you've misread the NetBSD sources, since I
never see that output when I build NetBSD.


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