svn commit: r187332 - head/tools/regression/usr.bin/jot

Ed Schouten ed at
Sat Jan 17 15:36:55 PST 2009

Hello all,

First time I'm replying to this thread. I thought I'd better wait to see
other people's reactions first.

* Stanislav Sedov <stas at> wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:00:55 +0000 (GMT)
> Robert Watson <rwatson at> mentioned:
> > Many of us would *very* much like to be able to cross-build FreeBSD from both 
> > Windows and Mac OS X, which would be highly desirable for embedded systems and 
> > appliance shops.  The first obstacle to making that work is that you can't 
> > even check out our source code correctly on those platforms, so fixing that is 
> > an important priority so that the remainder can be worked on.
> > 
> I think this should be rather worked out in these platforms themselves (e.g.
> by renaming files in the checkout files, and so on) withouth trashing our
> tree. While some changes could be understandable, the one I've replied
> completely broked heirarchy of jot regressions tests: before the names
> of files were coreesponding to the options used in the test, now you can't
> say exactly what options used by looking at the filename. This looks like
> a gratitous change and regression to me.

But this is not how things go in reality. Even if you visit a FreeBSD
Developer Summit, you will see a lot of FreeBSD developers using Apple
MacBooks. We have vendors that try to check in the source code into
ClearCase, etc. We could make very long lists of scenario's where people
want to use the source code on non-FreeBSD systems.

I think being able to check out our source code virtually anywhere is a
good thing. Almost any Open Source project out there can be checked out
on multiple operating systems. Imagine what happened if the Mozilla
people wouldn't be able to check out their sources on different
platforms. Because we develop an operating system ourselves, doesn't
mean the rule doesn't apply to us at all.

If you think there are multiple solutions;

- Just leave it as it is right now.
- Change the name to something you like.
- Revert the change.

I don't really have a strong opinion on the subject. Do whatever you

 Ed Schouten <ed at>
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