svn commit: r333388 - in head: . share/man/man4 sys/confsys/dev/nxge sys/modules sys/modules/nxge tools/kerneldoc/subsys tools/toolstools/tools/nxge usr.sbin/bsdconfig/share

Cy Schubert Cy.Schubert at cschubert.com
Wed May 23 20:23:14 UTC 2018


In message <5B05C6AC.6010202 at grosbein.net>, Eugene Grosbein writes:
> 24.05.2018 2:30, Cy Schubert wrote:
>
> > Except for old computers and old software that segfaults on 64-bit, how man
> y people still use i386?
> > 
> > Full disclosure: I'd like to see i386 deorbited before I retire.
>
> Plese don't. I routinely use FreeBSD11/i386 for cheap VPS hosts having less t
> han 2G memory
> because amd64 has noticeable overhead. I even have ZFS-only i386 VPS, here is
>  live example with 1G only:
>
> Mem: 10M Active, 69M Inact, 230M Wired, 685M Free
> ARC: 75M Total, 1953K MFU, 31M MRU, 172K Anon, 592K Header, 42M Other
>      3500K Compressed, 29M Uncompressed, 8.61:1 Ratio
> Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free

I did say before I retire and I have no immediate plans. However 
dealing with 32-bit issues are a PITA and considering the causes of, 
IMO, most of the -CURRENT build failures over the past year, I suspect 
others may also feel the same way. Also, when there are i386 buildworld 
failures, people hardly complain. I do because my build scripts here 
build both (which I also do for ports). It is a fair bit of overhead.

>
> The VPS has only 20G of disk space and ZFS compression gives
> compressratio 2.22x for ports, 2.51x for src, 2.29x for obj
> and 1.95x for installed i386 system plus other software and data.

 I used a 768 MB Pentium M with compressed ZFS on a 40 GB disk, I think 
that was about 10 or 12 years ago. Documented on our wiki. That same 
machine is now my i386 testbed, used a few times a year. It now has 2 
GB RAM and 150 GB disk. Same configuration, just a little bigger.


-- 
Cheers,
Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert at cschubert.com>
FreeBSD UNIX:  <cy at FreeBSD.org>   Web:  http://www.FreeBSD.org

	The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.




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