svn commit: r334617 - in head: . etc

[Rodney W. Grimes]

> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, at 12:33 PM, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2018 at 01:39:00AM +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote:
> > > > > 06.06.2018 1:26, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >>> I find it often very useful to do
> > > > > >>>  (cd src/etc/rc.d && make install)
> > > > > >>> Same for defaults and several other directories which in fact
> > > > > >>> contains> > >>> non-editable content.  Is this planned to keep working ?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The short answer is, no.  All rc.d scripts get moved to the src
> > > > > >> of the program they start.> > >>
> > > > > >> That said, if there is a big need for this, we can see about
> > > > > >> options to keep them working.> > >>
> > > > > >> What are you trying to accomplish when you do this?  Just verify
> > > > > >> the rc.d scripts match your src tree?> > >
> > > > > > I avoid mergemaster/etcupdate and whatever else. rc.d and /etc/rc,> > > /etc/rc.subr /etc/rc.network are not suitable to etc, they are
> > > > > > binaries> > > provided by the project not for the user editing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When upgrading the host, esp. on HEAD, i usually refresh scripts
> > > > > > by this> > > procedure and avoid any editing and implied conflict resolution
> > > > > > for real> > > configs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not being able to easily install clean copies of these scripts
> > > > > > would> > > be very inconvenient and time consuming.
> > > > >
> > > > > I found that "mergemaster -iFUP" deals with unchanged files
> > > > > including mentioned rc* scripts just fine.> > That is, it automatically refreshes unchanged files without any
> > > > > silly questions just for change of $FreeBSD$.>
> > > > No, you missed the point.  Whatever nice is the handling of
> > > > unchanged files,> use of mergemaster forces me to handle changed files, which is exactly> what I do not want/need to do.  Yes, I update crashboxes very
> > > > often, and> I want to get all new code, including the startup scripts, when
> > > > I update.
> > > The startup scripts will be installed as part of installworld.
> > 
> > So each installworld would wipe over the top of any localmod /etc/rc.d/ 
> > and other stuff
> > that mght exist?
> > One of the reasons that etc/Makefile is detached from Installword is so 
> > that
> > /etc does not get perturbuted unless specifically requested.
> 
> Yes, this is by design.

This is going to have a great amount of push back, and this is by your NEW design,
the existing design does not cause this pain.

> 
> If people need custom tweaks for that stuff they should be upstreamed or moved into /usr/local/etc/rc.d as a custom startup script.

I doubt very much this is a practical solution.  I have changes that I doubt
belong in FreeBSD, and are not restricted to etc/rc.d.   And from reading
this thread thus far so do others.


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Rod Grimes                                                 rgrimes at freebsd.org