svn commit: r337826 - stable/11/bin/ls

[Rodney W. Grimes]

> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Rodney W. Grimes
> <freebsd at pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
> > [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ]
> >> On 14 August 2018 at 21:41, Rodney W. Grimes
> >> <freebsd at pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
> >> >> Author: kevans
> >> >> Date: Wed Aug 15 01:29:02 2018
> >> >> New Revision: 337826
> >> >> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/337826
> >> >>
> >> >> Log:
> >> >>   MFC r337506: ls(1): Enable colors with COLORTERM is set in the environment
> >> >>
> >> >>   COLORTERM is the de facto standard, while CLICOLOR is generally specific to
> >> >>   FreeBSD and ls(1).
> >> >
> >> > I have already seen one "Who enabled %&*@(#$@) colored ls output in 12?"
> >> > Seems that the defaults for xfce terminal is to have COLORTERM.
> >>
> >> If xfce's default is to request colour via the de-facto environment
> >> variable then we should generally honour it -- the answer to the
> >> %&*@(#$@) question is "you did, via your terminal's default."
> >
> > And I pointed that out to them, but it is kinda a POLA, people have
> > had to take explicit action to get colorls, that is no longer true
> > and that suprises them when they see it.
> >
> 
> I find the POLA angle kind-of hard to buy, though. Nothing in the base
> system offers a way for the default behavior of ls(1) to be altered,
> and this whole change is only honoring a de-facto standard for
> indicating that a colored terminal is supported and desired.
> 
> IMO, one should be aware of how the software they use is affecting
> their environment and the kinds of repercussions these changes may
> have. This is hardly the first bit of software that respects
> COLORTERM, and it surely won't be the last (in general... no specific
> plans here). =(

You can say it isnt a POLA, but the user was asstonished when it
happened and made the comment, hence forth, it is POLA.

Personally, I dont care, I do not use xfce's default terminal,
I specificially invoke xterm.

-- 
Rod Grimes                                                 rgrimes at freebsd.org