svn commit: r303218 - head/tools/tools/locale/tools

[Baptiste Daroussin]

On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 06:48:00PM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote:
> On 23.07.2016 15:32, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 02:58:31PM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote:
> >> On 23.07.2016 14:52, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> >>> On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 02:41:39PM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote:
> >>>> On 23.07.2016 14:24, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> >>>>> Author: bapt
> >>>>> Date: Sat Jul 23 11:24:05 2016
> >>>>> New Revision: 303218
> >>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/303218
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Log:
> >>>>>   Add another hack to add weekday to date format to more locales
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   While here only initialize the iconv converter when needed
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Modified:
> >>>>>   head/tools/tools/locale/tools/cldr2def.pl
> >>>>
> >>>> BTW, is there any progress in generating all collates with -m ${area} as
> >>>> you planned?
> >>>>
> >>> you mean the @modifier?
> >>
> >> No, I mean that:
> >>>> Perhaps all uk_UA should be generated with -m ${area} too - Ukrainians
> >>>> have extended Cyrillics in their alphabet and I am not sure that their
> >>>> order match default Unicode order for Cyrillic. The same about be_BY,
> >>>> bg_BG and sr_Cyrl_RS. They may match or may not, I don't check such
> >>> deeply.
> >>>>
> >>>> It seems the safest side will be to generate all with -m ${area}
> >>>>
> >>> Yes that is my plan, except for the 1 or 2 that cannot be generated
> >> >from cldr
> >>> directly
> >>
> > 
> > Nope I haven't made any progress, and I actually did a bunch of tests of some
> > (honnestly not all locales) trying to get a representative set and could not
> > find differnce in ordering between locales generated with -m ${area}.
> > 
> > It would also needs lots of work on the generation tools.
> > 
> > I first need to write a tool that compares collation rules for various ${area}
> > (not done yet) to see how much this is really needed and use it in the
> > generation tools.
> > 
> > I will try to do that for 12 if it is really worth it (based on the result from
> > that comparison tools)
> 
> IMHO we don't need comparison tools, just blindly adding -m ${area} to
> generating of every collate with different area be enough. CLDR may
> involve from time to time including national alphabets changes (which
> may happen often enough too), so it will be better to not run such tests
> every time with new CLDR import, but just the make code which do it
> correctly independently (-m ${area}) and forget about it, it will be
> much easier to maintain. Moreover, you'll spend more time writing such
> testing tool than adding -m ${area} :)
> 

Point taken, still the whole tooling has been made around not doing the -m
${area} thing which I worked around for a few collation, I need to rework (aka
greatly simplify those tools so good direction) to be able to do a full -m
${area}. I will do that for sure for 12.0

Best regards,
Bapt
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