svn commit: r284198 - head/bin/ls

Garrett Cooper yaneurabeya at gmail.com
Mon Jun 15 05:34:54 UTC 2015


On Jun 14, 2015, at 20:53, Julian Elischer <julian at freebsd.org> wrote:

> On 6/14/15 10:48 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>> On 13 June 2015 at 18:22, Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc at freebsd.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian at freebsd.org> wrote:
>>>>> I guarantee that no matter what you've worked on, there's
>>>>> approximately five orders of magnitude of shipping devices whose
>>>>> entire storage space can be measured in 1 digit megabytes. Each year.
>>>> (And yes - there's an appreciable set of them for which freebsd boots,
>>>> runs and keeps running on them.0
>>>> 
>>>> You can buy em too, some of them even under $60.
>>> 
>>> Can FreeBSD now not run on these systems because of libxo?
>> It's a tight squeeze as it is. Running in 8MB of flash (even if it's
>> compressed) is still an exercise in "what can you cut out."
>> 
>> My point isn't that it isn't running because of libxo; my point is
>> that arguing about "embedded" involving "lots of storage" is woefully
>> incorrect and will continue to be until those gigabytes of storage are
>> available for a penny. Which yes, I'm guessing will happen in my
>> career - but it's also quite likely code bloat will continue to chase
>> that upward.
> 
> do we have a WITHOUT_LIBXO option on sources?  I believe we should..

+1. I would be more than happy to implement it by stubbing out the majority of the macros to something less invasive, but it might be a bit before I do that.
Thanks,
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