svn commit: r262282 - in head: contrib/dma contrib/dma/debian contrib/dma/debian/migrate contrib/dma/debian/source contrib/dma/test etc/mtree libexec libexec/dma share/mk tools/build/mk tools/build...

Baptiste Daroussin bapt at freebsd.org
Fri Feb 21 19:31:52 UTC 2014


On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 12:56:29PM -0500, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt at freebsd.org>wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 09:07:23AM -0800, Rui Paulo wrote:
> > > On 21 Feb 2014, at 08:32, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt at FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 08:01:44AM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote:
> > > >> Why?  There is /usr/ports/mail/dma.
> > > >>
> > > > Because there are lot of case where you do not need a full smtp server
> > in base but just
> > > > be able to deliver locally and/or relay mails outside, dma is very
> > good for that
> > > > purpose.
> > >
> > > I agree with this notion and to be honest the next step should be to
> > remove sendmail from the base system.
> > >
> > I'm strongly support that idea.
> >
> 
> Baptiste,
> 
> I appreciate that you've put a lot of thought and effort into this work,
> and indeed you put in Herculean amounts of effort for the project for which
> we should all be grateful.
> In particular, the addition of dma is listed as having been discussed with
> three other committers, and represents the potential for a very significant
> change in the base system that we present to our users.  As such, I think
> that it would be beneficial for all parties, if a summary of the reasoning
> behind this decision could be presented to us.  A quick, single-sentence
> reply does *not* serve this purpose; in fact it is actively working against
> this purpose, by seeming to brush off the concerns of others without proper
> consideration.
> 
> I understand that your time is precious.  So is the time of everyone on
> this list, and a small investment in a well-written description of the
> reasoning for this change should be able to prevent a long email thread
> that would waste a lot of many peoples' time.  It would probably be best
> for this description to go to -current, instead of the svn commit lists.
> 

You are right I ll prepare a mail describing all that to current at .

regards,
Bapt
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