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[David Chisnall]

On 20 Jun 2013, at 20:34, Warner Losh <imp at bsdimp.com> wrote:

> People trying new versions of FreeBSD. Some of them install the release, others might install a snapshot, some will do an install world. But if it worked in release 9.3 and broke in 9.4, then to find where they would need to install an svn port to get all the points in between.
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> Not having to install a port, possibly a port that got messed up by the world you just build, is a big win for me in my mind. Users often have commented to me that running FreeBSD gets harder and harder with more hoops to jump through to do things that used to be easy. Installing svn is one more hoop. It, by itself isn't a huge hoop, but if we can avoid that hoop we should.
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> I do mind installing a port to do this. We've kicked too much out of the tree in the name of anti-bloat, and frankly I'm glad to see this.

This rationale makes sense to me.

> I think insisting on a definitive statement on svn lite's mission statement is a way to obstruct progress. Sometimes you just need to things because they feel right, not because they have been through a 20-step approval process...

When we add something to base, it should always be for a reason with a defined use-case that can't be (easily) solved by existing means.  I think we have that rationale now, and I'm happy.  A long discussion could have been circumvented by providing it up-front.

David

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