*** HEADS UP *** FreeBSD.org commit mail list changes

[Peter Wemm]

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:10 AM, Vadim Goncharov <vadim_nuclight at mail.ru> wrote:
> 08.10.08 @ 05:54 Kevin Oberman wrote:
>
>>> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 15:47:08 -0700
>>> From: "Peter Wemm" <peter at wemm.org>
>>> Sender: owner-svn-src-all at freebsd.org
>>>
>>> *** HEADS UP ***
>
> [...]
>>
>> Thanks for the POLA violation. I think this will cause far fewer
>> problems than making every subscriber update manually and I'm not even
>> sure it is a violation. I'd find not getting src commit messages very
>> astonishing!
>>
>> Anyone who read cvs-src should really be able to handle this change
>> without all that much upset.
>
> What the fuck?!
>
> I've had cvs-src@ set to nomail, could write but msgs were not delivered.
> I've read them via Gmane, my NNTP newsreader offers very flexible way to
> filter them. Now, mail lists are switched WITHOUT 'nomail', and my local
> hard drive is being spammed, instead of NNTP (and freebsd.org also wastes
> resources fot that, eh?). And worse, I just CAN'T disable it again: when I
> trying to login to http://lists.freebsd.org for svn-src-all@, it simply says
> about authorization error!
>
> Moreover, this change is pain in the ass for all users who don't care about
> SVN switch - while CVSUP/CSUP is in use, it is not-so-worth to care. And it
> is now more difficult to manage for those who were used to cvs-all@ - a
> bunch of lists instead of one. Mailman DOESN'T give me interface to manage
> all my subscriptions at once - I must go and login for every one!
>
> I've heard several complains about this spamming change on local IRC
> channels.
>
> Breaking POLA is bad.

The password reminder thing isn't that hard.  Go to the single list
that I subscribed you to.
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all then click on
"unsubscribe or edit options".  Type your email addres.  Instead of
entering a password you cllick 'send password to me'.  It shouldn't
take much more than 30-60 seconds.

http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/svn-src-all

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