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[Martin Wilke]

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On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 04:38:58AM +0100, Jan Beich wrote:
> Martin Wilke <miwi at FreeBSD.org> writes:
> 
> > On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 09:52:11PM +0100, Christoph Moench-Tegeder wrote:
> >
> >> ## Jan Beich (jbeich at FreeBSD.org):
> >>
> >> > Looking at Try options[1] and automation[2] I'm not sure WAYLAND=off is
> >> > tested nowadays. In www/firefox WAYLAND=off has no effect[3] unless
> >> > x11-toolkits/gtk30 also has WAYLAND=off. I've reported the issue
> >> > upstream[4] but for now just locally remove files/patch-bug1514156.
> >> > If there's no fix in sight after actual release on 2019-01-29 then
> >> > the patch can be moved under WAYLAND_EXTRA_PATCHES.
> >>
> >> I personally don't mind having the wayland stuff around - from
> >> the log I gather I disabled it quite some time ago because it
> >> broke something ("glx/dri/whatever", sic) back in the days.
> >> Now it just works. And firefox 65 works, too.
> >>
> >> Given that WAYLAND is the default for us, and "without wayland"
> >> might be untested anyways - would it make sense to remove the
> >> WAYLAND option and force it to "on" always?
> >
> > Correct me if I am wrong, WAYLAND is a X replacement which is not really working with FreeBSD atm.
> 
> x11-wm/sway works, except on x11/nvidia-driver. No clue about others.
> 
Well thats off topic, but it dosent work for me on a T480 (2018 model) not even getting a full screen yet 
(tested with scfb and intel / drm-kmod). However please lets not get deeper in to it, i'll send a seprated mail
on that later.

> GDK_BACKEND=wayland is default in Gtk3 if running under Wayland, except
> www/firefox. QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland-egl and SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland
> often work fine but not default. Lots of X11 apps work under Xwayland
> e.g., www/seamonkey, editors/emacs, x11/xterm.
> 
> > Why should I/We install it when we dont use it? For me the only thing it does is increasing build time,
> > and for minimal desktops a useless dependency. Its already absurd enough to have 2 CLANG versions
> > on a desktop.
> 
> For minimal X11 desktops a lot of stuff is useless e.g., D-Bus per bug 194460
> but accessibility/orca needs D-Bus. I suspect all Wayland-specific dependencies
> *combined* don't reach the build time of a single devel/llvm*.

I agree on that, but gtk3 still build and works fine without WAYLAND on, and honestly i'd preferd that way for firfox too.

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With best Regards,
		Martin Wilke (miwi_(at)_FreeBSD.org)


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