svn commit: r335281 - in head: . audio audio/gnump3d

[Philippe Audéoud]

On Mon, 02 Dec 2013, Adam Weinberger wrote:

> >> (2013/12/02 @ 1347 EST): Mark Linimon said, in 1.5K: <<
> > My reasoning is that contributing to FreeBSD is sometimes
> > hard and thankless, and if someone just hears too much negative feedback,
> > they may just find something else better to do.
> >> end of "Re: svn commit: r335281 - in head: . audio audio/gnump3d" from Mark Linimon <<
> 
> The style police (I'm looking at you, Alexey) should be allowed to fix
> commits for "correctness," and committers should be allowed to fix
> obvious mistakes for each other.
> 
> 1) You have the confidence that if you accidentally commit something
> with an obvious error, someone is likely to help you out and fix it for
> you.
> 
> 2) You don't have to sit there and stew when a commit accidentally
> breaks that port you love. Because let's face it, nobody wants to file a
> PR for ${PORT_OPTIONS:MODCS}.
> 
> 3) If everybody is empowered to fix obvious mistakes and style nits, you
> gain a consistent experience for the end-user, who we all theoretically
> work for. You know, rather than just having Alexey send you an email
> about the importance of not muting install commands, which everybody
> seems to ignore anyway.
> 
> 4) People need to un-knot their panties. Seriously. We're talking about
> "but *I* wanted to delete that port!" Someone did your work for you.
> Think about all the things you could do with the 30 seconds they just
> saved you.
> 
> But when faced with the choice between "let's all fix bugs and promote a
> consistent ports user experience" and "MINE!", we all know which one
> people will pick.

Adam,

I don't care about "mine" port... I'm just saying that
nothing is clear around maintainer and that if maintainer is set, it
have to be respected. I agree that we need to be more reactive to fix a mistake
but rules don't have to be too permissive regards to maintainer respect.

Clearly, nothing to see with "People need to un-knot their panties".
Serioulsy.

Now, that everybody gave his opinion about panties, playground and other
off topic remarks, can we have a *debate* on how we can write or update
current rules about maintainer and each committer relation, please ?
Obviously it's a problem encountered by many committer and it have to be
fixed. Or are we only good to troll ?

I suggest to work with marino@ and rene@ to help portmgr@ and bapt@ ask it too.
So, if you want to be constructive (more than talking about panties, I mean),
 feel free to send me an email and i will put you in the "workshop".

Regards,

-- 
Philippe Audéoud