svn commit: r383978 - head/multimedia/handbrake

Baptiste Daroussin bapt at FreeBSD.org
Tue Apr 14 08:43:26 UTC 2015


On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 08:14:24AM +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 09:50:26AM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 07:46:46AM +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> > > Seriously though, gtk20 is being far better than gtk3 ATM.  gtk3 is slow
> > > and crappy, and just one major regression compared to gtk20 (with a few
> > > exceptions like touch devices support).
> > > 
> > > Some projects that had switched to gtk3 at first later regret this
> > > decision and returned under gtk20 sanity.
> > 
> > Beside a lot of complains about gtk3 most projects using gtk2 aims at
> > switching to gtk3 :)
> 
> I hope they reconsider; Audacious' example [1] should be studied and lesson
> learned.  If you cannot stay with gtk20 (the are very few technically sound
> reasons, but let's assume you *are* unhappy with gtk20) then switch to Qt,
> or FLTK, Motif, etc.  Going gtk30 is troublesome for developers and quite
> rude for users.
> 
> > This storry sounds pretty much like the old time of gtk1 -> gtk2
> 
> Not really; gtk20 did bring several substantial improvements over gtk12;
> most notably UTF-8 and better rendering support, antialiased fonts, more
> useful widgets.  It was noticeably slower than gtk12, but not even close
> to the point when it becomes annoying.  (Plethora of warnings that start
> flooding your terminal window when you run most GTK+ applications is more
> annoying.)
> 
> gtk30 is mostly uncalled for, except for gestures/multitouch support; yet
> its poor performance multiplies everything by zero.
> 
> ./danfe
> 

You do forgot that they keeps breaking things within gtk3 branches :)

gtk12 still have lot of people trying to keep it forever because it was light :)
I do remember lots of discussions back in the time about people trying very very
hard to keep gtk12 as long as possible claiming gtk2 is just crap and bloat

Things hasn't changed much in my point of view :)

note that I do personnally have no opinion on gtk2 and/or gtk3 support here,
just finding fun the same things seems to happen again and again.

Best regards,
Bapt
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