svn commit: r335281 - in head: . audio audio/gnump3d

Philippe Audéoud jadawin at FreeBSD.org
Mon Dec 2 20:27:14 UTC 2013


On Mon, 02 Dec 2013, Mark Linimon wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 04:04:12PM +0100, John Marino wrote:
> > 3. This is the clause that needs updating.  It gives too much power
> > to the listed MAINTAINER.  It could and should allow others to fix the
> > port if it restores the port to how the maintainer intended. [...]
> > Some of this "power" needs to be clawed back.
> 
> The problem is (from a past portmgr's viewpoint) is that there is no
> "perfect" way to word a set of rules.  A corollary is that sometimes
> if you try, you wind up with a lot of words that no one reads :-)
> 
> While on portmgr I maintained a deliberate bias in favor of existing
> maintainers.  My reasoning is that contributing to FreeBSD is sometimes
> hard and thankless, and if someone just hears too much negative feedback,
> they may just find something else better to do.  (This has been my
> experience with other volunteer efforts).  OTOH we really should expect
> "best effort" from our maintainers, and if not, ask them to step down.
> I don't think this was the case here.
> 
> Yes, doing so sometimes meant having to ask people to wait the two weeks
> before taking an action, even if I personally agreed that the change was
> obvious/needed/sane/etc.
> 
> It's just a problem with different ways of working and different ways of
> communicating, aggravated by making assumptions.  As we can see in this
> thread, it doesn't always work right.  There's no "fix" except realizing
> that we're human and make mistakes.
> 
> My two cents.  I no longer have any official position, so take it for
> what it's worth :-)
> 
> mcl

Thanks for sharing.

-- 
Philippe Audeoud


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